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Offline Charlie J

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Cane sword inquiry
« on: Wednesday 14 January 15 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi there
I'm looking for information on a cane sword which has been in the family for some time but I would like to find out approximately how old it is, so I may be able to work out who origionally bought it.
There is no writting on it but there is a faint logo on the top of the blade which is very hard to see. The logo appears to be a different metal. I don't know what type of wood is used in the cane but it is well marked from use. The metal (appears to be tin) tip is also well scuffed and turned up ar the very end from use.



Help appreciated, thanks.
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Re: Cane sword inquiry
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 January 15 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Nice stick Charlie, presumably malacca cane,

http://www.antiquecanes.com/news.php

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Re: Cane sword inquiry
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 January 15 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Not sure what part you consider to be tin?

 This one looks similar;   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ej9/
.http://www.rootschat.com/links/05q2/   
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Re: Cane sword inquiry
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 January 15 00:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the replys guys.

Not sure what part you consider to be tin?

The floor end of the cane as opposed to the handle. To me it just looks like tin but I could be wrong. It's certainly not a precious metal. The blade is 65cm long, the handel is 11cm and the cane is 85cm.
Is there any recommendations for an expert I could bring it to in Ireland to find out a bit more about it?
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Re: Cane sword inquiry
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 January 15 06:40 GMT (UK) »
Could be tinned steel on the tip, stop the cane wearing out or splitting. Sorry I cannot help you with any experts in Ireland but maybe an auction house might help, they usually have a wide knowledge base or would know of someone.
.http://www.rootschat.com/links/05q2/   
  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
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Re: Cane sword inquiry
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 January 15 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, I will give them a try.
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Re: Cane sword inquiry
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 January 15 09:46 GMT (UK) »
I'm going to suggest that the wood is walnut.  :)
Is the pattern on the blade inlaid or etched?

A lot of similar items online:
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/7016026

This style probably spanned a number of eras, but there may be some detail about yours which will narrow down the time frame.

It's very nice.  :)

Added: looking again, I expect the others are right and it is Malacca wood, however the wood is quite grainy.

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Re: Cane sword inquiry
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 January 15 10:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ruskie
In my amateur capacity I agree, it looks to be walnut.
The pattern does seem to be inlaid.
If I could narrow it down to a decade or two I would be happy.
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Re: Cane sword inquiry
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 January 15 14:35 GMT (UK) »
It looks like there is something written on the blade near the hilt, also some wording carved into the wooden handle.
.http://www.rootschat.com/links/05q2/   
  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
PINEGAR-COLLIER-HUGHES-JEFFERIES-HUNT-MOSS-FRY