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Eugen Huber from Auleata? (German empire)
« on: Friday 23 January 15 08:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi! I'm lookiing for info from my opa Eugen Huber, he was born in a town called Auleata in 1915 (former German empire) I don't know the name of the town now, or if it stayed within Germany... Anyone with an old map?

His parents were Jacob Huber and Elsa Zehle.
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Re: Eugen Huber from Auleata? (German empire)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 January 15 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Do you have a copy of the document from which you got the place "Auleata"?  Is it possible it was misspelt or misheard?
Did Eugen emigrate? We might be able to find other documents that will lead you to his birthplace.
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Re: Eugen Huber from Auleata? (German empire)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 January 15 05:06 GMT (UK) »
I don't have any document unfortunately, this is information I got from my father. (Passed by his mom) all I know is that the place was or is called Auleata , from the former German empire. and the territory now belongs to Russia.

His exact birth i don't have it. Might be either December 30th. or 31st. 1915

He was the third of 3 sons. The oldest : Walter Huber, then (another brother I don' t have his name), and the youngest Eugen Huber.

The three of them emigrated to Mexico, through the port of Veracruz  (don't have a date available)
But I know it was before WWII  and then went back to Germany for military service.

Returned to Mexico after that, then my dad was born in Mexico in 1948.


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Re: Eugen Huber from Auleata? (German empire)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 January 15 08:41 GMT (UK) »
Auleata (Аулеата, also Aulie-Ata, Аулие-Ата) was the old name of Taraz/Jambyl in Kazakhstan from 1856 to 1936, but it was never part of the German Empire, and apparently only acquired a German-speaking minority in the 1930s with the influx of displaced Volga Germans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taraz

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Re: Eugen Huber from Auleata? (German empire)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 January 15 09:01 GMT (UK) »
Sure sounds alike, but this not the same city we're talking about. (Probably I'm waaay to mistaken in the spelling of the city -or town- I mention. . But I am absolutely sure, this is a Germany place I talk about. Even my dad's birth certificate says his father, Eugen Huber is of German nationality.

So must be another city or town, with similar name.

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Re: Eugen Huber from Auleata? (German empire)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 January 15 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Even my dad's birth certificate says his father, Eugen Huber is of German nationality.

Was it not the case that nationality could be determined by that of the parents, regardless of birthplace?

Perhaps you should not dismiss Taraz/Aulie-Ata out of hand, as there was a Mennonite settlement there. See:
 http://gameo.org/index.php?title=Aulie-Ata_Mennonite_Settlement_(Kazakhstan)

http://www.khiva.info/gb/people/mennonit.htm

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Re: Eugen Huber from Auleata? (German empire)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 January 15 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Even if they lived in Russia for many years/generations, the Volga Germans kept their language, gave their children German names and considered themselves German.
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Re: Eugen Huber from Auleata? (German empire)
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 January 15 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Even my dad's birth certificate says his father, Eugen Huber is of German nationality.

Was it not the case that nationality could be determined by that of the parents, regardless of birthplace?

Perhaps you should not dismiss Taraz/Aulie-Ata out of hand, as there was a Mennonite settlement there.

Guess you're right, this sounds possible.  I really wish I had more information.  I'll keep digging

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Re: Eugen Huber from Auleata? (German empire)
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 January 15 19:46 GMT (UK) »
It's the place name that is the problem. It's way off, either for Germany or for ethnic Germans in other parts of Europe. Certainly, Volksdeutsche were encouraged to return to the Reich, in your case from Mexico with or without encouragement.
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