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Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
« Reply #18 on: Friday 17 February 17 05:07 GMT (UK) »
From the engagement notice this looks to be Mollie's father.

Allan Horace BIRD, 84, b abt 1897
Died: 2 Feb 1981
Cemetery:   Devonport Cemetery, General Section

Possible marriage:
1917, registered and married Tasmania, p 0905
Allan Horace BIRD, Alice May CRUSE

Possible birth:
1896, Tasmania, registered at Longford, Tasmania
Allan Horace BIRD,
Birth Date:   30 Apr 1896
Father:   James Henry BIRD
Mother:   Emily BYE

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Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
« Reply #19 on: Friday 17 February 17 05:37 GMT (UK) »
Possibly Mollie's mother - especially taking into account Alice May's mother's surname and Mollie's second forename:

Tasmania
Alice May CRUSE
Birth Date:   23 Dec 1898
Registration Year:   1899
Registration Place:   Lyell, Tasmania, Australia
Father:   Albert E Cruse
Mother:   Margaret Gwynne

Alice May BIRD is also buried at Devonport, died 5 April 1957, aged 59

Marriage of parents of Alice May CRUSE:
South Australia, 1896, p 680, vol 189, registered Adelaide
Albert Ernest CRUSE
Father's name:   John Owen Cruse
Spouse Name:   Margaret GWYNN
Spouse's Father's Name:   Robert Gwynn
Marriage Date:   30 Nov 1896
Marriage Place:   Res Of Albert Rowe Goodwood West

Possible birth for Ernest CRUSE (same person??)
Tasmania, 1864, registered at Longford, #1180
   Erest (sic) CRUSE
Birth Date:   14 Nov 1864
Father:   John Cruse
Mother:   Martha Frampton

Marriage of Ernest CRUSE's parents.
Tasmania, registered Launceston, 1843, #614
John CRUSE, Martha Frampton (sic)
Marriage Date:   02 Oct 1843

John CRUSE died 21 June 1889, aged 78, buried Methodist section of Longford cemetery.
Martha CRUSE died 17 July, 1912, aged 87, buried Methodist section of Longford cemetery.

I see some immigration details for these people - happy to transcribe if you would like them.

You would need to get some certificates to validate these suggestions.

Judith




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Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
« Reply #20 on: Friday 17 February 17 22:22 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks I had the wrong parents for Albert, would love immigration records please.
cheers
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Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
« Reply #21 on: Friday 17 February 17 22:31 GMT (UK) »
I am missing the death date and burial of Albert Ernest Cruse, possibly buried with his wife at East Devonport? Can you please help with this...?


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Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
« Reply #22 on: Friday 17 February 17 22:59 GMT (UK) »
The following notice was in the paper and I would like to know who died in 1930 related to Mrs A.H. Bird assuming it means Allan Horace Bird's wife Alice May nee Cruse. Can you help with this info please. Can't seem to find anything else to connect it with.


Examiner (Launceston, Tas. : 1900 - 1954), Tuesday 13 May 1930, page 1
THANKS Mrs. A. H. Bird wishes to thank all kind friends and relatives for letters, cards, telegrams, and floral tributes in her recent bereavement.

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Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 18 February 17 00:02 GMT (UK) »
The Bereavement notice from Alice May BIRD may be in relation to the death of her mother, Margaret CRUSE (wife of Albert Ernest CRUSE) who died January 1930, aged 55.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/51639338
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/84914709
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/84914676  Funeral notice further down in the same column.  Burial at general cemetery, Latrobe.

Can't see a death notice for Albert Ernest though.  See below.

In searching for the above I came across the marriage notice for Allan BIRD and Alice CRUSE
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/50935590

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Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 18 February 17 02:57 GMT (UK) »
Electoral rolls have Albert Ernest CRUSE at Latrobe, Tasmania up to 1943 so it seems likely he died in the 1940s.

Here's his death notice which only uses the name Ernest CRUSE, not Albert.  ::) Given the mourners and family mentioned it seems that this is the correct person.
Died January 1944, buried at Latrobe cemetery, where his wife Margaret is.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/91417359
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68838034
Bereavement thanks:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68838057

As well as the birth record which I have already given there is a baptism record for an Ernest CRUSE

Ernest CRUSE,
Born: 14 Nov 1864 at Longford
Baptised: 22 Jan 1865 at Longford, Tasmania, Australia
Residence: 1864, Longford, Tasmania, Australia
Parents: John CRUSE, Martha CRUSE

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Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 18 February 17 03:08 GMT (UK) »
There is an on-line tree with a photo of the grave of John and Martha at Longford.
Transcription:
Methodist (Wesleyan) Cemetery, Longford, Tasmania, Australia.
IN memory of, JOHN CRUSE, Died June 21, 1889, Aged 78 Years,
and his Wife, MARTHA, Died 17 July 1912, Aged 87 Years,
and their Son, OWEN, Died 18 March 1892, Aged 39.

Will have a look for the immigration details later  :)

Judith



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Re: Seeking family of John Rigby, Nile
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 18 February 17 07:23 GMT (UK) »
Some immigration info:

A Martha FRAMPTON, 17, domestic servant, arrived on the Brankenmoor into Launceston 4 April, 1843, from London via Cork.  She was a Bounty immigrant.

There are a few suitable Martha FRAMPTONs in the UK making it difficult to work out which one would be the right person.

The image of the marriage record for John and Martha is available on Familysearch, but unfortunately there's no parent details for either. 
John is 29 and is on a Ticket of Leave; Martha is 19 and Free
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89CH-QDWV?mode=g&i=21&cc=2125029

There is also an image for the death record for John CRUSE
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9CH-H4DD?mode=g&i=145&cc=2125029

Judith

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"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

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