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Death of Sarah and William Walton Durham prior to 1911
« on: Wednesday 28 January 15 09:58 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
Could anyone with time and access to the appropriate resources possibly assist with the following?

My great grandfather (b. Byker) married for a second time May 6th 1911 St Mary's Church Newcastle (to an Annie Cooney - maiden name Wilkinson).

Prior to that I believe he had first married a Sarah Richardson July 11th 1896 at St Margaret’s  Church, Durham. 

The 1901 census records the family at 2 Cherry Place, St Oswald in Durham: William Walton 26, Sarah Walton 23 (born 1877/1878) and son William aged 1 (plus mother-in-law Mary Richardson aged 49).

Obviously as divorce was costly and rare in those days, I presume his first wife (and possibly his child) must have died in orderr for him to remarry.
I am looking for death records to confirm this - any help greatly appreciated.

Carol

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Re: Death of Sarah and William Walton Durham prior to 1911
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Is he definitely down as a widower when he marries in 1911 - do you have the certificate?

What about on the 1911 census, is he on his own and widowed?

I wouldn't necessarily assume first wife and child had passed away but of course he shouldn't have remarried if first wife was still alive!
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Re: Death of Sarah and William Walton Durham prior to 1911
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 10:25 GMT (UK) »
It looks to me as if they are together as a family in 1911 - William, Sarah, son William and two other children. 

So maybe there are two different William Walton families ???
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Re: Death of Sarah and William Walton Durham prior to 1911
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Just come to the same conclusion.  Edit - There is an unsourced tree in Anc that lists the William who married Annie as born 1874 and died 1945

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Re: Death of Sarah and William Walton Durham prior to 1911
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 11:26 GMT (UK) »
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What was William's occupation, on the marriage to Annie Cooney.

Has stated before William and Sarah, are still together on the 1911 census, so I can't see him marrying another women, a month later, but stranger things have happened

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Re: Death of Sarah and William Walton Durham prior to 1911
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks everyone!
Looks like this wasn't the same person then if the first family were still there in 1911.

I had based my assumptions it was the same person on three key factors:
the age (which corresponded more or less)
the match for the place of birth - Byker
and the line of work; in 1901 he was a ‘mason’s labourer’ and in 1911 he was a ‘labourer in a stone yard’.

In the 1901 cenus William Walton was not with the family at 45 Wesley St, Newcastle, yet in 1911 he was back with them at 11 Killingworth Place.
On his marriage to Annie Cooney he is a general labourer and a 'bachelor' - not sure if bachelor just means someone who has never been married or someone who is just unmarried? (Annie Cooney was a widow).

Many many thanks!
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Re: Death of Sarah and William Walton Durham prior to 1911
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 12:51 GMT (UK) »
hi,
the term bachelor means single as in never married. other terms used would be widower or divorcee, that is if they were honest with their info!

I am sure that you now try to avoid assumptions, a trap most of us fall into to make things fit  ???

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Re: Death of Sarah and William Walton Durham prior to 1911
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi

On the marriage who was Williams, father and occupation
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Re: Death of Sarah and William Walton Durham prior to 1911
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi

On the marriage who was Williams, father and occupation
Forget this, I have found him on the census, except for the 1901 census, he seems to have shaved 10 years off his age, on the 1911 census
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