Missing Butlin Family

[stacey26]

Hi all

I am new to this chat room but I am hoping that someone may be able to help me.
I have a John Butlin born c1797 marrying a Frances Maria Westbrook 20/10/1828 in Portsmouth. John was according to his naval records born in Hollowell, Northamptonshire. They had a son my 4x greatgrandfather Albert John Butlin born c1840, on the 1851 census he is living with his mother and it is stated that he was born in Portsmouth, 1861 census he says he was born Northamptonshire, 1871 census he says he was born Portsmouth and in 1880 his wife Eliza nee Olding marrys as a widow. I can't find a birth or death entry for Albert.

Back to John & Frances, 12 years seems rather a long time to have a first child even if John was away at sea. John came out of the navy/marine in 1848, where did he go have not found any trace of him since, no census or deth entrys. Frances I am pretty sure is on the 1851 census Butlin mispelt as Button in Portsmouth with Albert, no further trace of her after.

I am praying that there is someone else out there who has Butlin connections in Portsmouth/Portsea area that may be able to help me before I throw my computer out of the window in frustration.

Any info will be so so gratefully recieved.

Thanks
Stacey

[Sisterjane]

Could this be John
1861 cencus RG9/917-Folio 29  Upper Boddington

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George Butlin abt 1849  Upper Bod, Northamptonshire Son  Upper Boddington  Northamptonshire   
Jno Butlin abt 1796  Upper Bod, Northamptonshire Head Widow  Upper Boddington  Northamptonshire   
Jno Butlin abt 1840  Upper Bod, Northamptonshire Son  Upper Boddington  Northamptonshire   
Wm Butlin abt 1842  Upper Bod, Northamptonshire Son  Upper Boddington  Northamptonshire

Joe

[stacey26]

thank you for the reply Joe but I'm not too confident that this is my man as none of the other names mean anything to me at the moment but thanks for trying anyway

[Meg7]

I am doing the Westbrook family at present.  There is a George in Frances Maria's family so I think it is possible that this could be your missing Butlin family.  It is Joseph Westbrook born 1787 I am following.  The children are: Catherine 1785, Joseph 1787, Elizabeth 1789, Matthew 1791, Wm 1795, John 1798, Sarah 1799, George 1802, James 1804 and Frances Maria 1807.

[Vengeur]

I think the birth was registered as Albert John BUTLER Q1 1840 Portsea mother WESTBROOK

[Vengeur]

Looks like this was his baptism:

Name    Albert John Buntlin
Gender    Male
Christening Date    26 May 1845
Christening Place    SAINT MARYS,PORTSEA,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name    John Buntlin
Mother's Name    Frances Maria
GS Film number    919741, 919742

[Vengeur]

Trying to find Eliza's second marriage in 1880....what is the reference you have?

[Vengeur]

A little on Frances Maria WESTBROOK as background:

Name    Frances Maria Westbrooke
Gender    Female
Christening Date    19 Apr 1807
Christening Place    SAINT MARYS,PORTSEA,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name    John Westbrooke
Mother's Name    Catherine
GS Film number    919738, 919739

Name    John Butlin [NB: also transcribed as BATLIN]
Spouse's Name    Frances Maria Westbrook
Event Date    20 Oct 1828
Event Place    Saint Thomas,Portsmouth,Hampshire,England
GS Film number    919725, 919730, 919731, 919732, 919733

[Vengeur]

Re. missing death for Albert John BUTLIN [and per my query re Eliza's re-marriage] is this a possibility?

Q2 1880 Fareham Alfred BUTLER age 40

I only ask as the Hampshire Telegraph for 21 Apr 1880 has under DEATHS: "BUTLIN - on the 30th ult at High Street Wickhamnear Fareham Mr Alfred Butlin aged 40 years"