search for birth Dorthy Caldecott

[Siralli]

Ref: Henney Brammer b 1923 married Dorthy Caldecott (listed as 21 on cert) - in 1948 Manchester

Hi all,
I have found the birth for Henney - but not for Dorothy, can anyone help please.

Advice as to why this doesn't appear to be listed, or other avenues to explore - would be most helpful.

Thanking you in anticipation

Siralli

[davidft]

A possible

Name: Betty D Caldecott

Mother's Maiden Surname: Mills
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Registration district: Birmingham N
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 855

Does the marriage certificate give the brides father's name as then you could check to see if he married a Mills


If her father's name is Harry you may be in luck

Marriages Jun 1926 

Caldecott  Harry A  Mills  Birmingham N.  6d 762 
Mills  Doris E  Caldecott  Birmingham N.  6d 762   

[Siralli]

A possible

Name: Betty D Caldecott

Mother's Maiden Surname: Mills
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Registration district: Birmingham N
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 855

Does the marriage certificate give the brides father's name as then you could check to see if he married a Mills


If her father's name is Harry you may be in luck

Marriages Jun 1926 

Caldecott  Harry A  Mills  Birmingham N.  6d 762 
Mills  Doris E  Caldecott  Birmingham N.  6d 762

Hi davidft,
Thanks for your prompt response - I will have a ganda at this. * Sorry - I didn't scroll down far enough at first to read it all....It doesn't look as though this one is near the mark, but I will still check this through.

Dorothys father is listed as: John Wiliam Caldecott - And a carter as profession

Thanks for your time - much appreciated

Siralli

[davidft]

Well it appears that John William marries Florence in 1906 in Ashton, Lancashire


Marriages Mar 1906 

CALDECOTT  John William     Ashton  8d 549   (a carter at the co-op in 1911)

HARPER  Florence Amelia     Ashton  8d 549   


and Harry A Caldecott does not appear to be one of their children.

Could Dorothy be Scottish or Irish ?

or could be a different John William Caldecott

or Dorothy could be adopted

Do you know the names of any of Dorothy's siblings ?

[Siralli]

Well that John William marries Florence in 1906 in Ashton, Lancashire


Marriages Mar 1906 

CALDECOTT  John William     Ashton  8d 549   

HARPER  Florence Amelia     Ashton  8d 549   


and Harry A Caldecott does not appear to be one of their children.

Could Dorothy be Scottish or Irish ?

Sorry davidft - I have only just got back into FTR after a lengthy break - I can't even find the button to reply to you without using your quote.
Many thanks for digging that one out - but the simple answer is we don't know at this stage, but suspect not.
I unfortunately cannot go into detail here, because of the rather unusual circumstances regarding my search - suffice to say that I am working with a relation with a rather sensitive aspect to things - sorry.
Things are becoming slowly clearer for us, having found the birth of Henney - the unusual first named helped, along with 5 siblings to henney, but it is the other half that we really need to confirm in order for us to reach the census returns to give us wider scope for building from and then working back to present.
We shall keep exploring all avenues, and with help from people like your good self, we shall surely make progress - eventually.

Thanks again

Siralli

[davidft]

OK one last thought.

If Dorothy has died try looking for her death registration as depending when she died it may include her birth date (to see if she really was 21 when married) and after a certain date death certificates also include place of birth

[jess5athome]

Hi, there is a Dorothy Brammer born 14th August 1927 died July 1/4 2001 registration District Surrey Northern in Surrey, age at death 73.
Does this help?

Regards
Frank.

[Siralli]

Hi, there is a Dorothy Brammer born 14th August 1927 died July 1/4 2001 registration District Surrey Northern in Surrey, age at death 73.
Does this help?

Regards
Frank.

Hi jess5athome,
Thanks for the this - another starter for 10 - and looks a good one too....I shall follow this up!

As a matter of interest - where did you pick this up from?  I have been using FindMyPast and various others - without a squeek at being close.  lol

If you don't want to say - I will understand

Thanks very much - and to you david...stars the pair of you!

Best wishes

Siralli

[josey]

If Dorothy has died try looking for her death registration as depending when she died it may include her birth date (to see if she really was 21 when married) and after a certain date death certificates also include place of birth

But remember any information on a death certificate is given by the informant - if this person was told her age by Dorothy it will still be incorrect.

I guess Dorothy's father John William would have been born 1890 - 1907? She may have been illegitimate & made up the father's name. She may have been adopted & assumed adoptive father's name although registered under another. Sorry to suggest all negative things but they are all possible!!

ADDED: Good find Frank!