Ancestors in Ireland

[Louise777]

Hi, I am trying to trace where my 3rd G Grandparents came from in Ireland. 
My 2nd G Grandparents Cornelius (Neal) McNulty born between 1817 and 1821and Margaret Conlon born between 1825 and 1833 came over and were married 18th July 1847 and lived in Southwark Surrey.
From their marriage details Cornelius's fathers name was John McNulty and he was a farmer and did not sign at their wedding so maybe did not attend, however Margaret's father Michael Conlon looks to have signed and was a servant. 
Cornelius died between 1864 (when his last child was conceived) and the 1871 census.  We did not find a death record for Cornelius.  Margaret remarried 11th November 1883 to Joseph Perry in Surrey. At this time Margaret's father was deceased and had been a coachman.
I would be so thrilled if anyone could give me any more information on where my 3rd G Grandparents.came from in Ireland.
Thanking you in anticipation,
Louise777

[Erin2012]

Louise... I was just thinking that perhaps an obit from Margaret might indicate where she was from.

Or have you checked Griffiths Valuation for John McNulty? 

[aghadowey]

Are you sure that Margaret Conlon was born in Ireland? The 1871 census clearly lists her birthplace as Bath (Somerset) although I have not been able to find her in other census records.

Numerous family trees which list the sons give her name as Margaret but almost all fail to include father's name (although it should appear on their birth and marriage records) which makes me wonder if he deserted the family or the spelling of his surname is causing the problem of not finding his death (he's listed as Neil McEnalty for the 1847 marriage).

[Louise777]

Hi,
Thank you to you both for your help.
Let me tell you what I know.
1851 census - Neil McAnuslty born about 1818 in Ireland.  Living on Southwark.
Mogot McAnuslty born about 1829 in Ireland.
Son- John McAnuslty born about 1850 in Southwark. Plus lodgers living with them.
1861 census Nell McNully and Margaret both still in Southwark.  Sons John born about 1850, Thomas born 1856 and Charles born 1860 all born in Southwark.
1871 Margaret McNulty born in Bath now a widow living with her boys.
I have the marriage certificate of Neil McNulty and Margaret Conlon.  They were married 18 July 1847 in Southwark. Neil is a Shoe Maker and his father is John McNulty a Farmer and Margaret's father is Michael Conlon a servant and both parents still alive.  After Cornelius dies Margaret remarries (I have the marriage certificate) Margaret marries Joseph Perry on 11 November 1883 in Burmondsey Surrey. Margaret is a widow and her father who was a coachman at this time was now deceased.
I do not believe Margaret or Cornelius could sign their names as they have put a cross on the birth of their children.  I have the birth certificates for children, John born 1849, James born 1853, Thomas born 1855, Michael born 1861, William born 1863 all born in Southwark.  There was a son called Joseph born shortly before Cornelius died, even with a GRO search, I have been unable to find.  They had a daughter but unable to trace.  I have been unable to find the death certificates for Margaret Perry after 1883 or Cornelius's death before the 1871 census.  When I have looked at trees on other sites I have found a few mistakes however they are a help at times.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INTEREST AND HELP.  IT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

[Louise777]

Ps Someone else has suggested Griffiths records to me today, thank you!  Please can you explain what orbis on Margaret means please?
Thank you so much.

[zx123]

Hi,
On the Griffiths Valuation on the ask about Ireland website there is a Cornelius Mcnulty living in Kilbarren in Donegal.

[Louise777]

Thank you so much:)
I wonder how I will find out if it is our Cornelius.  Someone today told me to go on to the Griffiths site and look for 'clusters' of their names to find out the area where the names originated from.
Thank you for trying to help me!

[aghadowey]

Hi,
On the Griffiths Valuation on the ask about Ireland website there is a Cornelius Mcnulty living in Kilbarren in Donegal.

Griffith's Valuation spans a period in the mid-1800s but the entry for that Cornelius McNulty is dated 1858- well after he was married and living in England.

It's quite likely all the missing civil records in England are actually there but the spelling of the surname is making them so hard to find.

[Erin2012]

Obits = obituary in a newspaper.