Sophia Holford born about 1822 in Addlestone or Chertsey- help please.

[Tonykelly]

Addlestone was part of Chertsey parish, St Paul's wasn't built to around 1838 and became a District Church.   It might be worth checking checking the Chertsey registers if you haven't already.  It didn't become the Parish church until 1857
see: http://chertseymuseum.org/addlestone (amongst others)

Tony Kelly, 
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West Surrey Family History Society

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[Duodecem]

Thank you Tony -that's helpful to know. So , presumably she was born in Addlestone and baptised in Chertsey. Are the Chersey baptism records on-line anywhere, I haven't been able to find them?

[rosie99]

Yes St Peter Chertsey are here on Ancestry up to 1812
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=4790

I can only see a George Hoford bn 1750 son of John on there though.  Byfleet St Mary is also covered which isn't that far away

[Tonykelly]

Hi.

The PRs are on Ancestry so they must be in the Surrey History Centre.  Although as a previous poster said they are difficult to find.   I do find the SHC web site and catalogue difficult to use (and I have been building web sites for nearly 20 years)

The LDS have also filmed the BTs if that is easier for you

"Chertsey, Surrey, England - Church records
Title:   Bishop's transcripts for Chertsey, 1693-1852
Authors:   Church of England. Parish Church of Chertsey (Surrey)
Film Items:   Microfilm 0307771 Baptisms, marriages, and burials, 1693-1694, 1729-1730, 1800-1835
Microfilm 0307772 Baptisms and burials, 1836-1852; Marriages, 1836-1843"

from http://www.londonfhc.org/content/catalogue?p=England,England,Surrey,Chertsey&f=1

consulted just now.


and finally  .... WSFHS have published a CD (CD 26) which cover this

"Parish Register Transcipts and Indexes in the Chertsey District - January 2012
The Parish Register Transcriptions and Indexes on this CD have been brought together from other publications produced by West Surrey FHS"

http://wsfhs.org/pages/cds.php (and scroll down)

If you have no luck in the meantime all the West Surrey FHS resources will be available for consultation and for sale at the Surrey Family History Fair on 31 October in Woking Leisure Centre.  Free admission, and limited free parking. As will many of other Societies' research material

HTH ( and apologies for the information overload)

Tony Kelly, 
Monumental Inscriptions
West Surrey Family History Society

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[rosie99]

Found them after 1812 on Ancestry
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=4772
Chertsey All Saints 1901-1912
Chertsey St Peter 1813 - 1912
Addlestone St Paul 1838 -1912

Nothing showing for Holford though

[Duodecem]

I think I may have found her in the Surrey records on Ancestry. I gave up trying to guess permutations of her surname and searched for "Sophia" in 1822. (Her year of birth seems consistent as does her forename which went on through the family.)I found this: (the link is very long and may not work so I've copied the content)
Name:   Sophia Horder- I looked at the original and the surname is, in fact "Holder"
Birth Date:   10 Oct 1822
Baptism Date:   10 Nov 1822
Archive Provided Parish:   Chertsey, St Peter
Parish as it Appears:   Chertsey
Father:   Thomas Holder
Mother:   Sophia Holder
Reference Number:   CHY/4/1
The father's occupation is poulterer. Sophia married a butcher, so this may be a connection between them.
Thomas and Sophia went on to have 3 sons-William (transcribed Horder) and Thomas and Joseph (both Holder|)
It does seem possible that this is Sophia and the name is incorrect on FreeBMD. I would be interested to know what other people think.
Thank you to everyone for the very helpful links.

[Duodecem]

No -I 'm wrong I've just found Sophia Holder's marriage to James Cattermole on another Ancestry tree, her father's name was Thomas and the pob on the 1851 census is Chertsey (transcribed as Charley!)
Oh well, back to the drawing board!

[Duodecem]

I sent for the marriage certificate, as Suzard suggested. Sophia Holford was a spinster of full age and a servant (unusual to have the bride's occupation as well as the groom's) Her father was Robert Holford, a cattle dealer. The marriage was witnessed by Thomas Holford- possibly Sophia's brother?
Her groom was a butcher son of James Morton. (I thought this was the case but it's nice to have it confirmed) He was a widower-which I didn't know.
So -I'm a bit further forward- she was definitely  Holford, had a father Robert and another relation (brother or uncle) Thomas.
All suggestions for further progress gratefully received! So far the Surrey records on ancestry don't have a Robert Holford.

[rosie99]

I keep coming back to your post 

One for the backburner
There is an 1841 census entry H0107/ Piece   1065 Bk3 f   34 page15 in Newington, Lambeth

Martha Helford 50 Ind means bn in county (Surrey)
Sophia Helford 20 bn in County

Ancestry have transcribed it as Helfand