John McDowell and Helen (Nellie) McKay

[aghadowey]

Just as Ellen name more commonly used in Ireland, Loughrey would be 'more Irish' than Lochrie.

Ellen McKay, parents William McKay & Catherine Loughrey, born 18 Jan.1879 Ballymoney district
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPQY-JRC

Son born 1880 Ballymoney district: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP7W-2J5

? Eliza McKay born 8 July 1885 Coleraine district (mother- Loughrey)
? Annie McKay born 6 Aug.1889 Ballymoney district (mother Loughrey)
? Fanny McKay born 6 Apr.1891 Ballymoney district (mother Loughrey)
? male McKay born 8 Jan.1893 Ballymoney district (mother Loughrey)
? Alexander McKay born 15 Feb.1895 Ballymoney district (mother Loughrey)

Think this is your William & Catherine with family in 1901- townland should be Craigahulliar-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Portrush_Rural/Crighuller/931933

Will post more shortly...

[aghadowey]

Here's a brief outline of the family. They lived on the Co.Londonderry/Co.Antrim border so some records indicate Coleraine district and others Ballymoney (Portrush comes under Ballymoney district). Think I can get a bit more which I'll post later.

William McKay (c1856 Co.Antrim-aft.1911) m.(12 Dec.1877 Coleraine district) Catherine Loughrey (c1857 Co.Derry-aft.1911)
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Portrush_Rural/Crighuller/931933
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Ballylagan/Corrstown/595446 (8 children/6 living)
   ? Death: William McKay, age 52, 12 Apr.1914, Portrush sub-dist., Ballymoney dist.
1.   Ellen McKay (18 Jan.1879 Portrush sub-dist.) m. John McDowell
        Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPQY-JRC
2.   Thomas McKay (12 Oct.1880 Portrush sub-dist.-aft.1911)
        Birth: Son born 1880 Ballymoney district: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP7W-2J5
3.   Mary McKay (26 June 1883 Portrush sub-dist.)
        Birth: Mary McKey born 26 June 1883 Ballymoney dist. (mother- Loughrey)
4.   Sarah or Eliza Jane McKay (c1886 Coleraine sub-dist.-aft.1901)
        Birth: Eliza Jane McKay born 8 July 1885 Coleraine district (mother- Loughrey)
5.   Annie McKay (6 Aug.1889 Portrush sub-dist.-aft.1901)
        Birth: Annie McKay born 6 Aug.1889 Ballymoney district (mother Loughrey)
6.   Fanny McKay (6 Apr.1891 Portrush sub-dist.-23 Feb.1900 Portrush sib-dist.)
        Birth: Fanny McKay born 6 Apr.1891 Ballymoney district (mother Loughrey)
        Death: (Jan/Mar.1900): https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FT6Z-HWY
7.   Samuel J. McKay (8 Jan.1893 Portrush sub-dist.-aft.1911)
        Birth: male McKay born 8 Jan.1893 Ballymoney district (mother Loughrey)
8.   William Alexander McKay (15 Feb.1895 Portrush sub-dist.-aft.1911)
        Birth Alexander McKay born 15 Feb.1895 Ballymoney district (mother Loughrey)

[aghadowey]

This isn’t the house McKays (their house had 2-4 rooms with 4 windows in front) lived in but a lovely place in Corrstown townland (suspect it was where Rebecca Graham lived in 1911 census according to the building returns).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/voods/4656896939/

The former Hopefield Hospital seems to have been in Corrstown.

Have had a look at the Valuation Revision Books on PRONI’s site-
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/val12b.htm

VAL/12/B/30/4E (1899-1910)
3. John Reid (27 acres 0 rods 28 perches) changed to Wm McKay in 1907 then in 1909 In Fee (meaning bought out)

VAL/12/B/30/4F (1911-1929)
3. Wm McKay-  In Fee (27 acres 0 rods 28 perches)

If the 1914 death posted earlier is your William McKay then it’s possible his son William Alexander took over and no change of name was recorded in the valuations.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

In case you are driving around the area here are some other townlands to include in your visit from
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/ballymoney-parish.php#.VNpXrkt5kYV
McCay, Jno.    Townland: Dunaghy Year: 1825
McDowell, Benjn.    Townland: Cribbindall Year: 1825
McDowell, Daniel    Townland: Cribbindall Year: 1825
McDowell, Geo.    Townland: Cabragh Year: 1825
McDowell, Hugh    Townland: Cribbindall Year: 1825
McDowell, Hugh    Townland: Cribbndall Year: 1825
McDowell, Jno.    Townland: Cribbindall Year: 1825
McDowell, Thomas    Townland: Cribbindall Year: 1825
McDowell, Wm.    Townland: Town Head Year: 1825
McKay, Charles    Townland: Enagh No. 2 Year: 1825
McKay, Robert    Townland: Seacon No. 2 Year: 1825

[aghadowey]

Some of the marriage certificates would hopefully give a better indication of where the families might have lived at an earlier date.

[aaid]

1901 census- 7 Westbank Terrace, Renfrew, Renfrewshire, Scotland
  John McDowall, 26, born Ireland, carter for building contractor
  wife Helen McDowall, 22, born Ireland
  son William McDowall, 1, born Partick Lanarkshire

more to follow...

I've stumbled across this as I was searching for "Westbank Terrace, Renfrew", it may be coincidental, it may be significant.   My Gx2 grandfather, Kennedy McDowall, died in Glasgow in 1910.   He was originally from Cromkill near Ballymena but moved to Glasgow around 1860 as a child and settled in the Maryhill.   

His death was registered by his son - and my great-grandfather - James McDowall who gives his address as 3 Westbank Terrace, Renfrew.   Now up until now, AFIAK, there was absolutely no reason why he would have been living in Renfrew but I know wonder whether this John McDowell is a cousin or relative.

Need to dig a bit deeper here I think.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

hi aaid,
quick index to Griffiths valuationhttps://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/antrim/connor.php
Mc Dowell        Clotworthy         Cromkill              Connor     Antrim
Mc Dowell        Henry              Cromkill              Connor     Antrim
Mc Dowell        John               Cromkill              Connor     Antrim
McDowall spelling  only one found in Co Antrim in Aghagallon civil parish[Connor is one]
more information on the above see askaboutireland website -griffiths valuation
 i looked on Ballymena's website the Braid unsuccessfully for a link

i think your family looks like could be incomplete entry in 1881 as Kenneth mcdowall fleming st

1891 census  earlier could be incomplete entry in 1881 as Kenneth mcdowall fleming st
kennedy mcDowall iron moulder
 b1856 ireland 1891 garscule rd Glasgow m Mary b 1857 ireland
1901 Hopehill Road glasgow
Helen 15 b 1876 lanarkshire as Ellen in 1881
? williamb 1881 in 1881 census for kenneth
kennedy 8 b1883 lanarkshire later iron dresser
james 6 b 1885 renfreshire
William 3 b 1888 lanarkshire
tom b1899
 
earlier the tithe applotment books see irishgenealogyhubshow McDowell, Mr. Townland: Slatt Year: 1835
McDowell, Alexr.   Townland: Connor Year: 1835
McDowell, Clotwthy.   Townland: Crumkill Year: 1835
McDowell, Willm.   Townland: Slatt Year: 1835
have a happy new year

[aaid]

hi aaid,
quick index to Griffiths valuationhttps://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/antrim/connor.php
Mc Dowell        Clotworthy         Cromkill              Connor     Antrim
Mc Dowell        Henry              Cromkill              Connor     Antrim
Mc Dowell        John               Cromkill              Connor     Antrim
McDowall spelling  only one found in Co Antrim in Aghagallon civil parish[Connor is one]
more information on the above see askaboutireland website -griffiths valuation
 i looked on Ballymena's website the Braid unsuccessfully for a link

i think your family looks like could be incomplete entry in 1881 as Kenneth mcdowall fleming st

1891 census  earlier could be incomplete entry in 1881 as Kenneth mcdowall fleming st
kennedy mcDowall iron moulder
 b1856 ireland 1891 garscule rd Glasgow m Mary b 1857 ireland
1901 Hopehill Road glasgow
Helen 15 b 1876 lanarkshire as Ellen in 1881
? williamb 1881 in 1881 census for kenneth
kennedy 8 b1883 lanarkshire later iron dresser
james 6 b 1885 renfreshire
William 3 b 1888 lanarkshire
tom b1899
 
earlier the tithe applotment books see irishgenealogyhubshow McDowell, Mr. Townland: Slatt Year: 1835
McDowell, Alexr.   Townland: Connor Year: 1835
McDowell, Clotwthy.   Townland: Crumkill Year: 1835
McDowell, Willm.   Townland: Slatt Year: 1835
have a happy new year

Hi, Thanks for this - Clotworthy, Henry and John McDowell mentioned in Griffiths are most likely uncles of Kennedy McDowall - when he moved from Antrim to Scotland, he adopted the Scottish 'all' version of the name.

The census details you quote are correct.  I've never seen the details of the 1881 census as I can never locate it on ScotlandsPeople or on ancestry but I've suspected that it's correct and is a mistranscription of his first name.  It will be Fleming St off Garscube Road, rather than in the East End, and this would make sense.

I had a bit of a look at this in more detail and I can see that the couple in the 1901 census at 7 Westbank Terrace are the John McDowell and Nellie Mackay mentioned in the OP.  That makes it less likely that they were related to my G-grandfather James McDowall given they were from Portrush.  It's still a bit of a coincidence though.