Author Topic: MITCHELLs in NSW, first in the Hunter River Region & then in the Kyogle region  (Read 2763 times)

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My interest is in determining the ancestry of Agnes Elizabeth (“Aggie”) MITCHELL (1901-1972) who married Bernard FARRELL (1897-1969), in Casino, NSW in 1922.   I believe Aggie is a descendant of Charles MITCHELL (ca 1800-1869) a farm servant & native of Kent who arrived in NSW as a Bounty Immigrant 1838, 27 June with Harriet  & five children , probably William, Iden , John, Harriet & Matilda, on “Westminster” ex Gravesend.   They had a son Henry MITCHELL (1841-1916) born in Morpeth, NSW who married Elizabeth INNES in 1869.   She had a son, Henry Oscar MITCHELL (1876-1953) born in Maitland, NSW who married Martha Jane HAMILTON (1875-1955) in 1898,   Aggie was one of their children, being born in Morpeth, but in 1909, the family moved to Toonumbar in northeast NSW, where Henry took up a selection & commenced dairy farming.
Can anyone confirm the above ancestral line or have I found the wrong Charles MITCHELL?   If he is the correct one, does anyone know anything about his English origins?



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Re: MITCHELLs in NSW, first in the Hunter River Region & then in the Kyogle region
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 February 15 07:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Welcome to RootsChat.

I will ask the Moderators to move your post to the Australia Board where your quest will catch the eyes of the regulars on that board.

Cheers,  JM (NSW centric)
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Re: MITCHELLs in NSW, first in the Hunter River Region & then in the Kyogle region
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 February 15 07:34 GMT (UK) »
May I ask if you have the 1922 NSW marriage cert for Bernard and Agnes, and if so, what information did Agnes provide about herself and her parentage on that document?  (#3229)

I would expect the cert (or the official transcription of the registration) to give you first hand information from Agnes.   So, you should have her place of birth, her age on marriage,  her usual address, her occupation, her mother’s name and nee name, her father’s name and occupation, and if either parent was already known to be deceased that too will be noted on that mc. 

So working back from that 1922 marriage cert, then you could seek out her father’s MITCHELL line.   So, the NSW BDM online index does show a birth was registered Morpeth district of NSW for Agnes E, daughter of Henry O and Martha J MITCHELL.  (DoB 19 July 1901  #24064)

The details on that birth registration include where and when Mr & Mrs Mitchell were married, where they were born, and their ages when the baby was registered, and the details of that baby’s older siblings. 

So from that information then you can with confidence start to work back on Henry MITCHELL's ancestry.  :)

Cheers,  JM 
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Re: MITCHELLs in NSW, first in the Hunter River Region & then in the Kyogle region
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 February 15 07:45 GMT (UK) »
From the NSW electoral roll of 1903, for the electorate of HUNTER and just at the West Maitland polling place there were 24 enrolled to vote whose surname was MITCHELL.  This includes a chap named Henry Oscar MITCHELL.  The 1903 roll included females for the first time.  But that West Maitland roll does NOT include Martha Jane MITCHELL.

NSW ER 1903 HUNTER, polling at West Maitland
Henry Oscar MITCHELL, of Ayrfield, a farmer.

ADD
 NSW State Records Office has a Probate file for a Henry Oscar MITCHELL died 27 Aug 1953 
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Search.aspx

NSW ER 1913  TENTERFIELD, polling at Eden Creek
Henry Oscar MITCHELL, of Cobcorn Creek, a farmer
Jane MITCHELL, of Cobcorn Creek, domestic duties.

 

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Re: MITCHELLs in NSW, first in the Hunter River Region & then in the Kyogle region
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 February 15 11:57 GMT (UK) »
The wedding of Miss Agnes E. Mitchell, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. O. Mitchell, Kyogle, and Mr. Bernard Farrell, also of Kyogle, was celebrated in the Presbyterian Manse, Casino, on Saturday by the Rev. D. R. Hamilton. Miss Doris Mitchell, sister of the bride, acted as bridesmaid, and Mr. Austin Crossley filled the role of best man.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/122604483 Richmond River Express 13 Feb 1922

There's a NSW BDM birth indexed for 1903, registered West Maitland, Doris I, daughter of Henry O and Martha J MITCHELL  #13478

There's a NSW BDM marriage indexed for 1922, Kyogle, Doris I MITCHELL and Austin E CROSSLEY #8731 (end of June 1922)

Cheers,  JM


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Re: MITCHELLs in NSW, first in the Hunter River Region & then in the Kyogle region
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 February 15 12:57 GMT (UK) »
If from Agnes 1922 marriage you can confirm her parents as Henry Oscar   and Martha Jane  then you will need their marriage cert to establish what first hand information they provided when marrying. (1898, #5907)   

It may well be that the July 1869 marriage of a chap named Henry MITCHELL and a lass named Elizabeth INNES, registered at Maitland is for Agnes’ paternal grandparents.  (#2697)   If you do not yet have that document, and were to consider obtaining it, please consider ordering an official transcription.  It is very likely the NSW BDM only received a summary of the information.    If so, then perhaps the NSW BDM registration for that marriage has NOT recorded the first hand information provided to the clergyman when they were marrying.   Don’t let that become a brickwall, as it is only a hurdle, and with a little effort you can usually get back to the original parish register and check what information was originally provided.

NB Henry Oscar birth registered Maitland district, with parents indexed as Henry and Elizabeth MITCHELL.  Birth Feb 1872.  So if you were to obtain the details from that birth registration, it would give info about Henry Oscar’s parents …. When and where born, their ages, etc.       

NSW BDM does have an Early Church Record from 1841 at Vol 162A, line 375,for a baptism of a Henry, son of a Charles MITCHELL .   I understand that Vol 162 is likely to have supplementary records.  I would hope there's also mum named on that record, and some indication of the age of Henry at that time.  He may have been an adult.   Fingers crossed there's Charles occupation noted or some other clues re Charles.

Cheers,  JM
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Re: MITCHELLs in NSW, first in the Hunter River Region & then in the Kyogle region
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 September 15 03:30 BST (UK) »
This is the correct Charles Mitchell. Charles Henry MITCHELL was born on the 28 December 1799 and died on the 4 March 1869. He was the son of Charles MITCHELL born on 24 Aug 1774 and died on the 15 Apr 1855 and Catherine SOANE/SWAINE born on 22 Mar 1779 and died on 16 Jun 1861 and married in 1797 Hawkehurst, England. Charles MITCHELL (1774-1855) was the son of Ann EVANS born in 1751 and Edward MITCHELL born in 1747. Charles MITCHELL was also the brother of Mary MITCHELL born in 1778 and Ann MITCHELL born in 1789.
Hope this helps,
Tessa
Currently Researching the Matthews family (Quirindi-Walhallow, NSW, Australia), the Mitchell family (Sandhurst, Kent, England) and the Woodhams family (Fairlight, Sussex, England)

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Re: MITCHELLs in NSW, first in the Hunter River Region & then in the Kyogle region
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 September 15 06:01 BST (UK) »
 :)Tessa

Your information is consistent with my findings (with help of Ian Mitchell on Devon-Mitchells.Co.Uk).

Some evidence I had found is as follows:
Marriage of Edward MITCHELL & Ann EVANS on 6 May 1772 (freereg.org.uk);
Marriage of Charles Mitchell and Catherine Soane, 12 Nov 1797 at Sandhurst, Kent (on familysearch.org); and
Marriage of Charles Mitchell and Harriet Huntley, 13 Oct 1821 at Mountfield, Sussex
(familysearch.org).

I cant find a baptism of Edward MITCHEL(L) in 1747 +/- 2 yrs on freereg.org.uk

It is great to know that one has been on the right track.   Many thanks,

Kevin