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Offline andrewalston

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Obviously some were reluctant to tell the government even then
« on: Sunday 22 February 15 19:27 GMT (UK) »
There was obviously some reluctance to participate in Civil Registration, to the point where advertisements were put in the papers extolling the virtues.
This is from the Liverpool Mercury of 25th May 1838, though similar ads were still appearing at least as late as September.

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Re: Obviously some were reluctant to tell the government even then
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 February 15 19:37 GMT (UK) »
What a fascinating article. Very indicative of the class divide at the time.
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Re: Obviously some were reluctant to tell the government even then
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 February 15 20:11 GMT (UK) »
There was a lot of confusion about civil registration for the first few years. Some people thought that the registrar baptised the child when they registered it.

Pamphlets were produced in 1837 entitled The Church Register not superceded by the New Register. Another pamphlet Registration is not Baptism reached its 3rd edition in 1841. A third titled Registration and Baptism was produced in 1840, just three of many similar publications.

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Re: Obviously some were reluctant to tell the government even then
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 February 15 22:27 GMT (UK) »
Off topic slightly I know but not really worth a topic of its own---- I was surprised to find that many women refused to be included in the 1911 census.
 This is perhaps why some seem to" disappear".
Thanks for the newspaper cutting---interesting reading.

Just thought this may be of help to some F.H. researchers. Viktoria.

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Re: Obviously some were reluctant to tell the government even then
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 February 15 22:41 GMT (UK) »
That was a very informative read. Thanks for posting.

I found it interesting that after 6 months the birth could not be registered at all. Maybe thats why I can't find my ggm.

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Re: Obviously some were reluctant to tell the government even then
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 February 15 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Yes very interesting, it explains why some registrations are not there.  Thank you for posting.
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Re: Obviously some were reluctant to tell the government even then
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 February 15 18:28 GMT (UK) »
I forgot to include in my post that the women were suffragists, and did not want to be enumerated.
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Re: Obviously some were reluctant to tell the government even then
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 February 15 18:37 GMT (UK) »
I forgot to include in my post that the women were suffragists, and did not want to be enumerated.
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Is there an explanation as to why suffragists would not want to be enumerated? I'm wondering what the reasoning was.

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Re: Obviously some were reluctant to tell the government even then
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 February 15 18:58 GMT (UK) »
 Not absolutely sure , it was mentioned in a Radio 4 programme about suffragettes.
But suffragists and suffragettes were not the same.
Suffragettes used violent means- amongst others- in attempting  to get votes for women.
 Suffragists thought it was wrong anyone of full age  should be enumerated when they had no right to vote and were not enfranchised. Men could be suffragists.That is the best of my knowledge
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