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Haggart Ancestry
« on: Monday 23 February 15 00:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, I am looking for the next generation of Haggart's. 
Here is what I have.... any help is greatly appreciated!

William James Haggart 1868-1956
His parents:
Thomas and Isabella Haggart ??


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Re: Haggart Ancestry
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 February 15 00:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi and Welcome to Rootschat,

Have you any idea where in Scotland William James Haggart was born?
And where did he die please?

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Re: Haggart Ancestry
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 February 15 00:56 GMT (UK) »
He was born in Dundee, Dundee City, Scotland, United Kingdom.
He died in Mount Pleasant, Michigan, U.S.ofA.

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Re: Haggart Ancestry
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 February 15 01:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi again.

Thanks for the information.
There were 3 William Haggarts born between 1865 and 1870 in Dundee according to Scotlands People - Familysearch have 3 births too.  Twoboys had a father called Thomas - none had a mother called Isabella.
Are you certain about parents names (where did you get them from....a death certificate perhaps?) ?
And are you certain about place of birth?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYBZ-645
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYBZ-6HM
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYBZ-64Y

Looby :)


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Re: Haggart Ancestry
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 February 15 01:22 GMT (UK) »
I'm pretty sure that he was born in Dundee Scotland, but not definitive on the parent's names.  I do know that he married Mary Jane (Carmen), and one of their sons was Ogal Anderson Haggart (my great-grandpa.) How should I go about trying to pinpoint my particular William?  Thank you so much for the help!

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Re: Haggart Ancestry
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 February 15 01:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

First of all do you know when he left Scotland? 
He should be on the 1871 Census ....somewhere  and others depending on when he left for the States.
Also us Scots were pretty keen on using family names for our children. So can you list any other children the couple had and the order they came in.
Often the first son would be called after father's father. Second after mother's father.
First daughter after mother's mother....second after father's mother.
Of course not everyone used this naming tradition and I've noticed that some families broke away from it once they'd gone abroad.

Do you know where he married Mary Jane Carmen ? I take it it was in USA?

Looby :)

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Re: Haggart Ancestry
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 February 15 02:02 GMT (UK) »
Was William in Canada before moving over the border to USA?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWL8-FD9

There is a Wm Hagert born 1867 in Lambton West District Ontario on 1891 Canadian Census.
His relationship to householder is nephew....it would be worth finding out who he is staying with to help join up the dots with Scotland.

Looby :)

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Re: Haggart Ancestry
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 February 15 02:24 GMT (UK) »
This may be significant?

William Haggart wed Isabella Wallace, 1842, Edinburgh

May be too early but worth looking at  ???  ::)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYML-HHD

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Haggart Ancestry
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 February 15 02:30 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Haggart & Isabel Haggart, 1853, Errol, Perth  ??? ;D

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY37-PQB


Just wondering if this was not the Thomas & Isabella mentioned earlier (your original question)...........assuming what you wrote meant Isabels maiden name to be Haggart too?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"