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Re: 1921 canada census ancestry.ca access problems
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 24 February 15 15:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

To go along with RK's find,

1921 Census they have been transcribed as Gordin
Hortense, teacher, art school
John, principal, art school
101 Spadina Ave. Hamilton

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 24 February 15 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Thanks dbreez... I didn't see them!!

Marion's obit in 1956 says she was formerly of 156 James St S.  She was formerly an art teacher at the Hamilton Conservatory of Music. 

So, she was still on James St. South....

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 24 February 15 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Woohoo!
The James Street address is about 1/2 kilometre from where GG Hazell lived for most of 1906-1918, or thereabouts, so overlap is possible. Pity they were Methodists.  Sorry, that sounds terrible! Just meant that as gggramma is anglican, they likely wouldn't have met at church!.

Thanks for playing along -- if I ever find the painting, I'll post about it here.
Pollington: Ontario/England...
Crossman/Kraussman: Waterloo co. Canada/Hesse Germany
Hagarty: Co. Waterford, Ireland
McGrath: Co. Cork, Ireland
Turner: Berkshire, England
Hazell: Wiltshire, England
Waring: Frolesworth, LEI; Bugbrook, NOR; Cripplegate/London, England
Pearcy: Pattishall, Northants
Scott: Norfolk Lusher: Norfolk, , England
Powling: Suffolk, England

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 24 February 15 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Hortense painted china, some landscapes, still life & abtract so if you have the correct artists it would appear to be Marion Eve Matisse...as she did some portraiture....
Here is one that could be "OF" a pioneer woman with a baby, by the hearth "MOTHER AND BABY BY THE FIRE"
http://www.langmann.com/painting.aspx?CategoryID=ARTIST&SubCatID=725

Here is a gallery that says it houses some of  her work
http://www.earlscourtgallery.ca/contact-us.html
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 05:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, J.J.

I suspect it is Marion, if it's either of the sisters, as Hortense eventually went in for abstract painting after her career painting china, whereas Marion did landscapes.

What I know about the painting:
It is either a full-length or 3/4 portrait, a large canvas, about 2 metres high, 1 metre wide. It details a tall woman in dark clothes, with possibly a black shawl, carrying a leather satchel (like an old-fashioned doctors bag), standing against a backdrop of fields. She had strong features ("a face like a hatchet", to quote my mother). The frame was dark. The model was my great- great- grandmother, who emigrated to Canada in 1905 to join her daughter's family in Hamilton, and died in Hamilton in March 1928 (which gives a relative time period and points to a Canadian artist, possibly even someone resident in Hamilton, as the model lived in Corktown and worked in service).  According to my mother, it was at the head of the stairs of the old AGH as you went in. (As a young woman, she used to go 'visit' with her when the family had errands in town.)

Either it was on long loan to the Art Gallery of Hamilton, or it has disappeared from their records, as I had the current curator have a look for it and she came up empty.  What I will have to do, I think, is go down there for a face to face next time I'm back in Hamilton. I've contacted the Women's Art Association of Hamilton (which has been around since the late 19th c) to see if perhaps one of their older members remembers the painting. Then I'll comb the national salon reviews for the decade of the 20s for likely artists and descriptions of the painting. But it's all slow forensic spelunking.  But I'd give my eye-teeth to see that painting. Great-great-gramma Hazell launched me into this whole family tree business, and I feel a connection across the generations to her.

Thanks, everyone, for all your help. Shall I mark this one completed?
Pollington: Ontario/England...
Crossman/Kraussman: Waterloo co. Canada/Hesse Germany
Hagarty: Co. Waterford, Ireland
McGrath: Co. Cork, Ireland
Turner: Berkshire, England
Hazell: Wiltshire, England
Waring: Frolesworth, LEI; Bugbrook, NOR; Cripplegate/London, England
Pearcy: Pattishall, Northants
Scott: Norfolk Lusher: Norfolk, , England
Powling: Suffolk, England

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 25 February 15 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Jennie Kidd Trout was a pioneer doctor in Ontario....Wonder if it was to honour her as she died 1921 ( in the U.S., but she practiced in Ontario)...Just a thought provoked by the leather sachel... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennie_Kidd_Trout
or Emily Jennings Stowe http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/jennings_emily_howard_13E.html
Interesting reading anyway!
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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 26 February 15 06:59 GMT (UK) »
Definitely interesting reading. Galvanic baths!
Thanks for posting the links.
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Pollington: Ontario/England...
Crossman/Kraussman: Waterloo co. Canada/Hesse Germany
Hagarty: Co. Waterford, Ireland
McGrath: Co. Cork, Ireland
Turner: Berkshire, England
Hazell: Wiltshire, England
Waring: Frolesworth, LEI; Bugbrook, NOR; Cripplegate/London, England
Pearcy: Pattishall, Northants
Scott: Norfolk Lusher: Norfolk, , England
Powling: Suffolk, England

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 26 February 15 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Upon noting that the women above had photo images, it therefore seemed less likely that one would need a model other than for body positioning...so did a little more hunting and there is an older story of a Mary Whitmore ( Whitmoyer) Hoople, who was taken, along with her brother & other children, by Aboriginals who taught her herbal medicine. Whether or not she may have ever carried a medical sachel I have no idea...but was trying to approach this from outside the box using the subject matter....
Again, if nothing else, most interesting reading to rest the eyes and catch up on some Canadiana... ( altho stories and numbers change in each account )
http://famouscanadianwomen.com/famous%20firsts/pioneers.htm
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« Reply #17 on: Friday 27 February 15 07:26 GMT (UK) »
There are some fabulous, wonderfully intriguing stories here, and I'm ashamed at how few of them I know.  And I did a degree in Canadian studies!  Thanks for posting the link!
Pollington: Ontario/England...
Crossman/Kraussman: Waterloo co. Canada/Hesse Germany
Hagarty: Co. Waterford, Ireland
McGrath: Co. Cork, Ireland
Turner: Berkshire, England
Hazell: Wiltshire, England
Waring: Frolesworth, LEI; Bugbrook, NOR; Cripplegate/London, England
Pearcy: Pattishall, Northants
Scott: Norfolk Lusher: Norfolk, , England
Powling: Suffolk, England