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[Boydie]

Hi all,
I am planning a trip to the UK this summer and am trying to find a marriage from Kent.

Have located 10 children of John RICHARDS and Elizabeth -the first children appear to be twins
 
christened in Charlton on 11/8/1816. No record of a marriage anywhere although one child-

 Susanna,bpt on 10/6/1826 has Elizabeth Lucy written beside it.

I would appreciate any help, please, in learning Elizabeth's surname.

Thank you,

Joan in Nova Scotia

[maddys52]

Have you ruled out this marriage at St Paul's Deptford (not that far from Charlton): John Richards to Elizabeth Witcombe 5 April 1815 (on familysearch)? Do you have any census records for the family?
cheers,
M

[rolnora]

Hi Joan,
Searching Freereg I can't see a marriage but there are two baptisms which if yours would tie in with the marriage record that Maddys52 has given you.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01eu5/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01eu6/

I noticed that both baptisms took place a couple of years after the births so it might be worth bearing in mind that instead of twins some of the 10 children were baptised on the same day.

[suzard]

No record of a marriage anywhere although one child-

 Susanna,bpt on 10/6/1826 has Elizabeth Lucy written beside it.





Joan in Nova Scotia

There is this baptism transcribed as
Susanna Richards
10 Jun 1826
Buckland Kent
father John Richards
mother Elizabeth Lucy Richards

Have you seen the parish register of this baptism to check if it is mistranscribed??

Suz

[Boydie]

Good morning,

My sincere thanks to all who have replied.

Census 1841 has John and Elizabeth, both 45 yrs with children Sarah and Susanna ages 10 and 15

In 1851 Elizabeth is with son Stephen, age 26, at 121 Charlton Green, labourer's widow.  Her age is difficult to decipher, could be 64 or 67 Piece H. O. 107  163

The children I have found were baptised at St. Andrew's, Dover, Kent beginning with Thomas and Mary 11/08/1816.  Father is listed as labourer on all records.

I do not know if this will assist but it is the only info that I have.

Kind regards from Joan

One tree on Ancestry lists Elizabeth Stanley or Elizabeth Lucy Stanley as wife of John but no proof is given.

[Boydie]

Hello again,

I have been sent some info which suggests that John Richards was a widower who married Elizabeth DAWDEY at St Mary the Virgin Church in Dover.  Would it have been possible to misread Dawdey for Stanley or vice versa ? Date was 30 October 1809. witnesses were Wm and Mary Ann Fuller.

Please does anyone have records for St Mary the Virgin church?

Kind regards from Joan

[rosie99]

Marriage image is quite clear
Douday - also signed E DouDay
she was a spinster of Deal

FindMyPast has registers online for this parish

[rolnora]

 
Baptism image for Susanna b1826 is also quite clear, mother Elizabeth Lucy

Again Findmypast has the registers online 

[rosie99]

Census 1841 has John and Elizabeth, both 45 yrs with children Sarah and Susanna ages 10 and 15

In 1851 Elizabeth is with son Stephen, age 26, at 121 Charlton Green, labourer's widow.  Her age is difficult to decipher, could be 64 or 67 Piece H. O. 107  163

I would say that Elizabeth is 67 in 1851  ( H0107/163  f198 p25 )    121 is the householders schedule number not house number.

Where are they in 1841     The only one that I can see that almost fits is H0107  465/12  f41 p1
Paper Alley, Charlton, Dover
John Richards 45
Elizabeth Richards 45
Sarah Richards 15
Elizabeth Richards 10
Thomas Grant 45
all bn in county