Husband of Mary Ann Emmerson b1838 Walsingham Norfolk

[gayparis]

I have reached a dead end tracing my father's tree. Henry Harvey France b1925. I have traced his maternal grand Mother Mary Ann Emmerson b1838 Walsingham Norfolk, married George Thomas France in 1908. Can anyone assist please?

[catfordcrooner]

Mary Ann Emmerson b1838 Walsingham Norfolk, married George Thomas France in 1908.

Are you sure about this information. 70 seems old to be getting married

[Annie65115]

There is one Henry H France b 1925 on FreeBMD -- is this your father? Mother's maiden name Nutkins. Where was he born?

George Thomas France m Elizabeth Nutkins in Southwark 1908. Are you getting the generations confused? Where do you think Mary Ann Emmerson fits in?

[ciderdrinker]

Hello
This may help 1891 census Peckham
Mary A Berezowski age 60?or 28widow dressmaker  Bristol
Mary A E Emmerson  mother age 58 born Norfolk
George Thomas France age 4 grandson

1881 census Well st Camberwell
Mary Ann Emmerson  widow 69 no occupation Lynn
Mary Ann Benzegones widow daughter 46 dressmaker Bristol

Ciderdrinker

[Annie65115]

So Mary Ann E was possibly the paternal great grandmother      --

OP, why don't you give us a bit more info about your father/grandparents, stuff that you know to be the case, and I'm sure that if any unravelling of the previus generations is necessary, this site will help you do it!

[Annie65115]

Hello
This may help 1891 census Peckham
Mary A Berezowski age 60?or 28widow dressmaker  Bristol
Mary A E Emmerson  mother age 58 born Norfolk
George Thomas France age 4 grandson

1881 census Well st Camberwell
Mary Ann Emmerson  widow 69 no occupation Lynn
Mary Ann Benzegones widow daughter 46 dressmaker Bristol

Ciderdrinker

Looking at that 1891 census, there is a scribble that makes it difficult to read, but I wonder is Mary A Emmerson is actually 80-something years old. There is a nice clear figure 5 further up the page and it looks significantly different from Mary's age, and being 80+ would make sense of the statement that she is "mother" when head of the house is 60 yr old Mary A Berzyowski. George would then be Mary A B's grandson, not Mary Emmerson's, pushing things a further generation back.

[ciderdrinker]

Yes it is bad and except for the 1881 no sign of them.
George Thomas France's war record gives a birth date of 8.8.1887 occupation dock labourer
seaman 1915 and not much else.
The Gro has George Francis France Sep 1887 Camberwell 1b 54.

Ciderdrinker

[ciderdrinker]

If your right and Mary Emmerson 80 then
1861 census Limehouse 14 Lower  Catherine St
William Emmerson 49 bricklayer Nottingham
Mary Ann 52 Lynn Norfolk
Margaret Clough 8 niece London

Mary Ann Berezowski 1832- Dec 1913 Death Camberwell
Ciderdrinker

[Annie65115]

And I've got Mary Ann Berezowski (born Bristol)  with her husband Richard and 2 small children living in Tower Hamlets in 1861