Author Topic: "STRATFORD"family.CO.CAVAN.Ireland. Mark Stratford&wife,sonsThomas,Mark&families  (Read 3178 times)

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First,I would like to thank you for the links given on my previous post for the "Stratford" family which were excellent.I wonder if anyone would have further information about "Mark"Stratford and his parents and family(Mark being my 2nd Great Grandfather on my Mothers side),also if there would be any information about Marks wife. I believe they had 2 sons,Thomas Stratford(my Great Grandfather)&Mark Stratford(his brother)and am hoping to find out information about Thomas's wife, Jane Kilroy.
I have been busy researching my Grandmothers(Thomasena Stratford)family side but have drawn a blank over which "Mark"Stratford is my relative & would be very grateful for any help.Following 2 possible "Mark" Stratfords given me previously:Mark Stratford, from Cullaboy.Drumlumin.Cavan(son of William)whom I thought to be my relative & whose Father was William Stratford, I am wondering if I have the correct "Mark",as he married Martha Anne Ferguson,b.1822, a Farmers daughter from Mayheahy,Soraby.Cavan, whom I think died 23 June 1851, which would make this after the birth of my Great Grandfather,Thomas Stratford b.1858.&his brother,Mark Stratford b.1856. Co.Cavan.(unless Mark remarried)I am not sure if the information abt the death of Martha Anne is definitely correct,& would be grateful for any help to find this out.If it followed "Mark" was not my ancestor,the other possibility given was"Mark",the son of Mark Stratford, who married Martha Anne Fergusons sister,Thomasina Ferguson.My Grandmother was also called Thomasena Mary Stratford, born Dublin, but the name "Thomasina/Thomasena"appears many times in the Stratford family, as do the names, Mark,Thomas.A 3rd possibility is a different"Mark" Stratford,to be my 2nd Great Grandfather.
Accurate information I have from the marriage certificate of my Great Grandfather,Thomas Stratford (b.1858.d.1939)is he married Jane Kilroy on 17 March 1883 at the Parish church of St.Thomas.Dublin.Marriage cert. states his Father as "Mark" Stratford, a Farmer.The Father of "Jane Kilroy" also named as a Farmer, (prev information says she was born 1846 in Drumgore, Parish of  Soraby. Co.Cavan).
Thomas Stratford was born,possibly in the Parish of Drumlumin,Co.Cavan where he helped his Father, Mark Stratford run the family farm,before joining the Dublin Metro Police(DMP)in 1880(Fore Street STN).1892 & 1901 show him to live at 8 Spencer Street, Dublin,1911 census at Drumgore, Loughdawen.
Thomas Stratford and Jane had 5 children:Thomasena Mary Stratford, my Grandmother b.1884 Dublin, Katherine Jane b.1887 Dublin,Cherie M Stratford b.1889 Dublin,Julia C Stratford b.1892 Dublin, Mark Thomas Stratford b.1892.d.19727 Thomas William (my Mum called Uncle Tom)b.1895.d.1963 Downpatrick.Tom inherited his Father Thomas Stratford's Farm & remained there until his death in 1963.The farm was possibly near Kilmore, Cavan, though I am uncertain exactly where & would really like to find this out also. Further information reg the Stratford family, the Ferguson family from Longford, the Sloan family and Knight family are all related through Marriage. Mark Stratford.b.1820.d.1869(possibly my 2nd Great Grandfather)married Martha Anne Ferguson, her sister Thomasina Ferguson (born Malyheahy) married Mark Stratford who was b.1801,d.1869 Co.Cavan, sister Catherine Ferguson b.Malyheahy 1819 married George Sloane who was b.1804.d.1867 Knockaghey, Gowna, sister Cherry Ann Ferguson b.Malyheahy 1826 d.1899 married Thomas Irvine b.1803 Cavan. d 1878Cavan, sister Mary Ann Ferguson b.1826 Malyheahy d.1889 Cullaboy married Thomas Stratford who was b.1806 Kilgolagh. Cavan d.1867 Cullaboy.
I would be very grateful if you are able to find out any information about my 2nd Great Grandfather "Mark" Stratford, so I know out which "Mark" Stratford is my Great Grandfathers "Father" and thank you for all your help with this, and with anything else that you are able to find out for me about Marks parents,wife&family and my Great Grandmother, Thomas Stratfords wife, Jane Kilroy.
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Re: "STRATFORD"family.CO.CAVAN.Ireland. Mark Stratford&wife,sonsThomas,Mark&families
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 March 15 09:30 GMT (UK) »
I'm finding it extremely difficult to read such a long post without spaces between so many of the words but here's a link to earlier Stratford topic-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=707537
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Re: "STRATFORD"family.CO.CAVAN.Ireland. Mark Stratford&wife,sonsThomas,Mark&families
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 March 15 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Apologies for my earlier long post which was difficult to read.   Very briefly, although you have just sent me a link to my earlier Stratford topic,  unfortunately  I am still not able to trace  the correct   Mark Stratford, who is the father of my Great Grandfather,Thomas Stratford,b.1858 d.1939 ).
   If you are able to help me with this, by finding out any information about Mark Stratford and his wife  (Thomas's Father and Mother)  I would be very grateful.
   Also, if you are able to find out any information about Thomas's wife who is called Jane Kilroy,     that would be great, as I am finding this difficult.
    ( please see my last post for information regarding Thomas Stratford,  his wife Jane Kilroy and his Father, Mark Stratford.   Sorry, I'm not sure which  Mark Stratford actually is Thomas's Father,  nor certain of Thomas's Mothers name ).
    Again, many thanks for all your help.
                                                      Carole

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Re: "STRATFORD"family.CO.CAVAN.Ireland. Mark Stratford&wife,sonsThomas,Mark&families
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 March 15 06:41 GMT (UK) »
National Archives of Ireland
Calender of Wills and Administration

Deceased Surname   Kilroy
Deceased Forename   John
Primary Beneficiary/Executor  Thomas Stratford
Date of Death   30 Mar 1890
County of Death   Granard,Cavan
Born - 1818



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Re: "STRATFORD"family.CO.CAVAN.Ireland. Mark Stratford&wife,sonsThomas,Mark&families
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 March 15 12:49 GMT (UK) »
   Many thanks Sue, for the photo grave details of John Kilroy.
 If you are able to find out any information about Mark Stratford and his wife, (the Father and Mother      of Thomas Stratford ) so I know more about the Stratford family,  I'd be extremely grateful.
    Any other information you are  able to  find out about the wife of Thomas Stratford, (Jane Kilroy) would also be great.
      (Please can you possibly send me the links for  John Kilroys grave  and the links for anything else that you are able to find out,  so I am able to click on them and view them )
                                    Thanks again for your help.
                                                         Carole

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Re: "STRATFORD"family.CO.CAVAN.Ireland. Mark Stratford&wife,sonsThomas,Mark&families
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 March 15 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Photo grave details?

National Archives of Ireland
Calender of Wills and Administration

Deceased Surname   Kilroy
Deceased Forename   John
Primary Beneficiary/Executor  Thomas Stratford
Date of Death   30 Mar 1890
County of Death   Granard,Cavan
Born - 1818

The details sue21757 posted are from Calender of Wills and Administration from National Archives of Ireland website. You can view it yourself here-
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/index.jsp
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Re: "STRATFORD"family.CO.CAVAN.Ireland. Mark Stratford&wife,sonsThomas,Mark&families
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 March 15 16:50 GMT (UK) »
Meant the link, thanks for sending it to me & for your help. Look forward to hearing from you again soon.
            Carole

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Re: "STRATFORD"family.CO.CAVAN.Ireland. Mark Stratford&wife,sonsThomas,Mark&families
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 March 15 01:32 GMT (UK) »
   Could you let me know how I can find the  birth certificate  for Thomas Stratford (so I can try and find out the names & addresses of his Father and Mother, ie.( for  Mark Stratford and Marks  wife ) or if you know other ways  to find out about the  parents of Thomas, & information about Thomas wife, I'd be grateful for your help.
     Please also let me know best way to find all my posts when I log onto  Rootschat, as I've 2 posts on the Stratford family written at different times and an earlier one on the Todd family.
  many thanks.


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Re: "STRATFORD"family.CO.CAVAN.Ireland. Mark Stratford&wife,sonsThomas,Mark&families
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 March 15 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Civil registration of births in Ireland started in 1864. Before that date there will be no birth certificate and it's baptisms from church records you need to find. Not all church records survive and of those that do not all are online. The details contained in such records vary according to the religion, period and clergyman filling in the record. Sometimes a mother's full name is listed, sometimes just her first name and sometimes only the father is listed.

Have a look at thses two topics on searching for Irish ancestors and Irish records-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=498742.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=442233.0

You can click on Profile, after you log in, then show posts to see all the post that you've made. Then you can click on Topics to see each topic you've started.
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