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Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
« on: Monday 16 March 15 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi.  I will be posting a couple of queries here shortly, my first time.  I have been a long-time supporter of an Irish chat forum on RootsChat but one of y families is taking me into this, for me, unchartered area and I really hope that I can find some kind listers with some suggestions or answers.
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Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 March 15 00:00 GMT (UK) »
What sort of information are you looking for?

If you have names then a search of passenger lists would tell you where and when people travelled.

The Planters Association Of Ceylon are on facebook and they may have resources you could tap into:
https://www.facebook.com/PA.Ceylon

Hope this helps
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Re: CANTLAY - Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 March 15 05:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Philip.  I will certainly make contact there.

My first family of interest is CANTLAY. 

LAURA ROSE HAMPTON married JAMES CANTLAY at St Andrew's Church Colombo on 13 FEB 1877.  I understand James Cantlay had a property called Mount Vernon, probably a tea plantation.

By 1891, Laura Cantlay is in the town of Bedford in the England census, a widow with 6 children all born Ceylon.  The children's names with approximate years of birth are:

Ella C(harlotte?) Cantlay 1879
Alexander W Cantlay 1880
Lewis H Cantlay 1882
James (Hampton?) Cantlay 1884
Joseph V(ivian?) Cantlay 1885
Charles Francis Cantlay 1889

I know a little of the sons James and Charles but not much.  Can someone help me with this family please?

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Re: HAMPTON - Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 March 15 06:16 GMT (UK) »
My second family of interest is the brother of the above Laura Rose Hampton.

JOSEPH LEWIS HAMPTON was born in Ceylon on 7th May 1855.  He was a surveyor.  He was employed by the civil service.  From Twentieth Century Impressions of Ceylon, ed Wright 1907 p.129:

Mr J L Hampton was born May 7 1855 Kuruneg(?).  He was Superintendent of Surveys, appointed District Surveyor in 1884, rose to Superintendent in 1897, and was Acting Assistant Surveyor General in 1901.

He died in Malta on 19 Nov 1931 aged 76 leaving a widow, Emily Hill Hampton. 

He married Mrs Emily Hill at Christ Church Colombo on 30 Oct 1900, aged 45.  From the Dundee Evening Post of 1st Nov 1900 there is this announcement:  Hampton-Gardiner.  At Christ Church, Colombo, on Oct 30, by Rev Arthur Dibben and Rev J Ireland Jones, Joseph Lewis Hampton, Survey Department, Government Service, Ceylon, and grandson of the late Colonel Hampton of the 50th Regiment, and of Bodior, Anglesea, N Wales, to Emily Hill, only daughter of the late Rev Thomas Gardiner, Free Church, Old Aberdeen, Scotland.

I am of the opinion that Joseph Lewis Hampton had also married previously, probably also in Ceylon.  Would there be some way in which this could be researched please?

On 27th and 28th April 1884, twins Daisy Gwendoline Hampton and Dora Geraldine Hampton died in Meaford, Grey County, Ontario Canada, aged 4 years 6 months, born Ceylon, father Joseph Lewis Hampton.  Hampton would have been 29.  In October 1883, the ship "Toronto" left Liverpool for Quebec.  Aboard were J.L. Hampton, Labr, Mrs Hampton, 2 Miss Hamptons aged 4 and Miss Hampton servant aged 17.  I think that Miss Hampton was Joseph's sister Ellen Fanny Hampton born 1866 who in 1899 aged 33 married in Ceylon LOUIS RAOUL RUDD, tea planter, and had at least one daughter, Isobelle Hampton Rudd, born Ceylon 1903, died unmarried in England 1985.

7 years after the above deaths in Canada, in the 1891 England census, Joseph Lewis Hampton, 35, Ceylon Government Surveyor, and Norman A Hampton, 19, Engineering Crystal Palace, are boarders in a lodging house at Croydon, south of London.  Norman must be Joseph's brother.  In an undated Baptism record in the Kandy St Paul's Church Births/Baptisms 1845-75 there is this record:  HAMPTON Norcott Thomas son of John Lewis Hampton and Charlotte Josephine.  Is this Norman, or a brother of Norman.  I can find no other mention of a Norcott Hampton.

Again, if anyone can help me with this information or fill in some gaps I would be very grateful.

Bill Webster
Australia


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Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 May 15 05:17 BST (UK) »
Re:  Hampton Family

I am trying to find more information on Dora and Daisy Hampton who died in Meaford, Ontario, Canada in 1884, at the age of 4 years 6 months.  Their father 's name was Joseph Lewis Hampton and both Dora and Daisy were born in Ceylon. I keep wondering if there might have been a family member who lived in that area, as Meaford is not a large town. Thanks for any assistance.

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Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 May 15 06:00 BST (UK) »
Hi.  We each seem to know as little as each other about these girls?  Are you related to any other branches of these families (see my previous post)?
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Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 May 15 07:52 BST (UK) »
Alexander W(hite?) Cantlay seems to die in 1959 in the Halsham district, Sussex aged 78

*James Hampton Cantlay born 1884, m. 1912 Margaret Emily Bewly, d. Aylesbury Bucks 1968 aged 84

James Hampton Cantlay (born 1844) appears on the passenger list of the Soudan leaving London for Colombo in 1922 aged 38.

Isab(Ella) Cantaly 1901 census as a neice born Ceylon 1879 aged 22 in Cuckfield Rural, Sussex, England.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSJD-PXC
((She could be leaving on the Sachen with a Mrs Cantley, South Hampton to Colombo this year to, you could check the original records to confirm))
http://www.GenesReunited.co.nz/search/results?sourcecategory=travel%2b%2526%2bmigration&lastname=cantley&keyword=ceylon

Mr L(ewis?) H(ampton) Cantley leaving South Hampton, England for Colombo in 1911 on the ship Lutzo
http://www.GenesReunited.co.nz/search/results?sourcecategory=travel%2b%2526%2bmigration&lastname=cantley&keyword=ceylon

* Charles Francis Cantlay born about 1889 in Ceylon was their youngest son. He married Ruby Mallan in Subiaco in 1914 - this branch went to Australia.


You mention Mt Vernon:
Kotagala 11th July a daughter to Mrs A.Cantlay 1899
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=MEX18991118.2.32&srpos=1&e=-------10--1----0Cantlay+ceylon--
(Of James and Laura Cantlays generation)

Laura Rose Cantlay must have returned to like in Ceylon and visited her youngest son in Australia (1912) if you look at Trove articles and one her sons is mentioned as living there when Mr and Mr C.F Cantlay go over to visit in 1915.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/37419110?searchTerm=Cantlay%20ceylon&searchLimits=
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/37419110?searchTerm=Cantlay%20ceylon&searchLimits=
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 May 15 10:50 BST (UK) »
Mipitiakande Tea Estate - The proprietors of this estate are Mr. James Cantlay and heirs of the late Mr. James Cantlay. The superintendant Mr A.W Cantlay. 304 acres of Tea and 45,000 rubber trees in the Kaleani Valley.

https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=eUF_rS8FEoIC&pg=PA880&lpg=PA880&dq=Cantlay+ceylon&source=bl&ots=IjfEmM8Qlh&sig=b-kLTnXkgwJnsVr1TUiGK-wNbUQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HBxTVf3yPKLEmAX1mID4Dw&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Cantlay%20&f=false

Mr and Mrs A W Cantlay of Dusinane Estate being shot and injured!!! and robbed in 1930 in the Nuwara Elyia district.
http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article/singfreepressb19301225-1.2.16.aspx

Obituary of John Lewis Hampton Snr (Father of Laura Rose Cantlay (nee Hampton)
http://www.mocavo.com/List-of-Inscriptions-on-Tombstones-and-Monuments-in-Ceylon-of-Historical-or-Local-Interest-With-an-Obituary-of-Persons-Uncommemorated/974644/393
(There is a Obituary of Joseph Lewis Hampton the son in this link to but I can't access it)

Have your read this? It suggests that  John (James?) Cantlay, Isab(Ella) Ramuz (nee Cantlay) and Joseph V(ernon) Hampton Cantlay from tea planter stock in Ceylon, lived in South Africa around Natal. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA/1999-02/0919794386

This might be why I can see a John Oliver Roland AYLWARD and Margaret Laura Hampton CANTLAY married on 30 Sep 1939 in Pretoria. Margaret Laura Hampton CANTLAY  was born on  31 May 1918 (Wondering whose child she is with a name like that)

Joseph Vernon Hampton CANTLAY b 1884 married Ellen CANTLAY (born Norris-Jones) -  Vera Ruth Hampton Brooking (born CANTLAY) was his daughter she married Leslie Herbert Brooking. Vera was born on May 31 1914, in Nylstroom, South Africa.

Joseph Vernon Hampton Cantlay was a Corporal in the South African Mounted Rifles.
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Sri Lanka/Ceylon Tea Planters and settlers from Britain 1850s
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 May 15 12:10 BST (UK) »
Trying to figure out if this Cantlay is related to your tree:
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/275909/CANTLAY,%20CECIL%20FRANCIS

Cecil Francis Cantlay born 1884 in Ceylon. Son of Charles and Lilian Cantlay, of Bluff Hill, Napier, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand.

Not sure Laura and James Cantlays generation?



Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)