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Geelong 1856-58
« on: Sunday 22 March 15 19:32 GMT (UK) »
My ancestor James Stanaway lived in Geelong from at least 1856 to 1858. He married Ellen Prescott of Lancashire and had at least one daughter, Ellen Elizabeth (born in 1857, died 1858). According to his marriage certificate he lived on C* and Yarra St. in Geelong. I am wondering if there are any resources to help me find out what he was doing there. I assume that he followed the gold rush as he originally moved from Cornwall to Wisconsin and ended up in El Dorado, California in 1850. I know that he came back to the US with Ellen because he is back in the US census in 1860. Thanks for any information or resources that you can recommend.
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Re: Geelong 1856-58
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 March 15 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Certainly plenty of work for a mason in the 1850's in Geelong, with many prominent buildings erected:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geelong.

Cannot find any James Stanaway on Trove in this time period:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper

On a quick look, sorry if I have missed something!
Cannot find him arriving in Australia, only leaving in 1858, but mentions Ellen Elizabeth Stanaway born 1857, who died at six months in Victoria in 1858.

And yet...

Victoria outward passenger lists 1852-1915 Transcription
First name(s)
Children With

Last name
Stanaway

Age
Child

Birth year
1858

Departure year
1858

Departure month
Mar

Destination
San Francisco, United States

Ship name
Lucy L Hale

Ship's master
Lull William

State
Victoria

Record set
Victoria outward passenger lists 1852-1915

Category
Travel & migration

Subcategory
Passenger lists

Collections from
Australasia

I guess it is a relatively short time period.This is the Geelong Family History Group: http://home.vicnet.net.au/~gfamhist/
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Re: Geelong 1856-58
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 March 15 23:31 GMT (UK) »
James and Ellen obviously had another child as indicated by the entry on the Outward Passenger Index at Public Record Office of Victoria
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01f01/


They may not have stayed in Geelong as the death registration of the child born in 1857 at Geelong, shows BORN Geelong not died at Geelong.

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Re: Geelong 1856-58
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 March 15 23:54 GMT (UK) »
I checked the 1860 census [Diamond Springs, El Dorado, California Roll M653_58 Page 785 Image 167]  and J STANAWAY b. England 45 years, mason, at Diamond Springs, Eldorado, California with a wife E, b. England 29 years however in the same household there are other STANAWAY's - male born England 20 years, farmer, and several children born Wisconsin.
Perhaps I have the wrong family.  Was James married previously?

Mmm James STANAWAY born England, miner, living at El Dorado on the 1850 US Census is 42 years of age. ::)

And age on marriage registration in 1855 is 41.

And according to his obituary, in 1904, was born England 1803.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=17999572&ref=acom

Ellen died 1891
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=17999588&ref=acom

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Re: Geelong 1856-58
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 March 15 02:38 GMT (UK) »
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According to his marriage certificate he lived on C* and Yarra St. in Geelong.

He lived in C**l*n Lane, which was off Yarra Street.   Yarra Street and Myers Street intersect. There are a couple of lanes that still exist off Yarra Street but no C**l*n Lane.

Unless James did something newsworthy which was reported in the newspapers of the day,  I doubt you will find anything about his life in Geelong.

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Re: Geelong 1856-58
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 March 15 05:27 GMT (UK) »
As Cando has already said there is no C*** Lane off Yarra St in Geelong now.  If you look on Googlemap you can see that there are only modern buildings on the north end of Yarra St, towards the beach area, so I suspect the C*** lane has been built over.  Judith
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Re: Geelong 1856-58
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 March 15 06:15 GMT (UK) »
James was married previously and  on the 1850 US Census his wife Jane and children are in Wisconsin.  I wonder if he had one of the children with him in Geelong.

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/
STANAWAY James  Batchelor  Of this Parish
BROWN Jane  Spinster   Of this Parish
16 Oct 1834
Parish Or Reg District   Probus

1841 Census HO107/148/5/8/33/13
Living at Probus, Cornwall
STANAWAY James 30  Mason  Born county
STANAWAY Janes  30   Born county
STANAWAY Ellen  5  Born county
STANAWAY Samuel 1 Born county

and a few doors away

STANAWAY James  60   Mason  Born county
STANAWAY Ellen    50    Born county
STANAWAY Caroline  18  Dressmaker  Born county
STANAWAY Mary  15  Born county
STANAWAY Hannah  10  Born county
GILES Elizabeth  60  Seamstress  Born county  [Is this Ellen/Eleanor's sister?]

Marriage in the Parish of Probus
STANAWAY James
GILES Elenor
10 Jan 1805

This looks like James baptism in the Parish of Probus so born 1806.  Eleanor aka Ellen.
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/
STANAWAY James
27 Dec 1807
Sex - son
Father James
Mother Eleanor
Notes   age 14 weeks; mother formerly TEALS - could this be GILES?  James' obituary refers to him as James G STANAWAY.

James and family emigrated to Canada prior to living in Wisconsin.

1850 US Census   
Living at Shullsburg, Lafayette, Wisconsin
STANAWAY Jane  41 years  Born England
STANAWAY Ellen A 14 years  Born England
STANAWAY Samuel  10 years  Born England
STANAWAY James  6 years  Born Canada West
STANAWAY Alice  5 years  Born Canada West
STANAWAY George W  3 years  Born Wisconsin
STANAWAY Henrietta  9 months  Born Wisconsin

You possibly have all this but I was curious after finding James' obituary.

Names of James parents on this thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=715629.0

Cando





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Re: Geelong 1856-58
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 March 15 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cando and Judb,
Thanks so much for this information! The passenger list is a great find. Yes, you have the family correct. They immigrated to Canada, then Wisconsin and finally to California. James was married before so it is an interesting idea that he may have taken one of the children from his first marriage to Australia. I do know that Ellen and James had a child named Emily who may have been born in Australia (c1857) but it is also possible that she was born in California. Cando you found information on James that took me a long time to piece together :) I will check out some of the links that you both sent as well. Thanks for giving my research on the family an extra push!! This is so helpful!
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Re: Geelong 1856-58
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 March 15 23:10 GMT (UK) »
When I look at the Public Record office I under the heading children it says 005. Would you think that mean 5 children came with him?
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