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« on: Friday 27 March 15 00:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am researching Francis Schomburg who married Mary Cotter Feb 22/1845. I would like to know what happened to Mary Cotter after Francis died. Does anyone have any information about the Cotters

 Thank-you, Penelope

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Re: schomburg
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 March 15 01:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi can you please tell us how old Mary was at marriage, and is this Francis in 1851?

Frank Shamburg 29 Married occ Ship Rigger b Prufeia(Prussia)? in Liverpool Borough Prison, Great Borough Street, Liverpool, Lancashire
Census Ref HO107/2178/791/3
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 March 15 01:44 GMT (UK) »
Is this Francis' burial

17 Feb 1871
Catholic Burial
Ford cemetary lancs
Francis Schaumburg
age 50

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 March 15 01:56 GMT (UK) »
Is this the family in 1861
13 Hurst St Liverpool Lancs
Frank Shamburg Head M 40 Warehouseman Menel Russia
Mary wife 36 Liverpool
Kate daughter 14 dressmaker
Margaret daughter 13
John son 11
Annie daughter 7
Theresa daughter 5
Henry son 4
Mary daughter 2
children all b Liverpool
2674 49 8

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: schomburg
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 March 15 02:01 GMT (UK) »
Did Mary predecease Francis??

Ford Cemetery
Lancashire
10 mar 1864
Mary Shamburg
age 39

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: schomburg
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 March 15 10:16 GMT (UK) »
according to this record
Francis Schaumburgh marries Mary Cotter 22nd february 1845 ,Liverpool
Francis Schaumburgh father was Frederick Schaumburgh
Mary Cotter father was Lawrence Cotter
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NN9C-W59

it looks like Lawrence Cotter was born Ireland in 1791
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ25-T3G

possible marriage of Lawrence and mothers name of Mary Cotter ??
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGN5-5ZV
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on IGI it states 1861 census as b 1821 Russia Mamel ......so Mamel or Menel as birthplace ..
I have just googled Menel Russia - and it states Menel means Homeless....so we presume they were homeless in Russia when Francis Shaumburgh was born ??
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: schomburg
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 March 15 14:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi my husband is direct descendant of Francis Schamburg. Francis/Frank was born in MEMEL PRUSSIA Memel is now called Kleipeda in East Prussia Lithuania. Frank died 16/02/1871 age 70 in Workhouse Mill Road Everton He had been living @ 59 Tatlock Street Liverpool. I have his death certificate He died of Typhoid. Informant on certificate was his daughter Catherine Riley nee Schamburg.
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COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE

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Re: schomburg
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 March 15 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Thank-you so much for your replies. It makes sense that Mary predeceased Francis.

Penny


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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 April 15 14:35 BST (UK) »
Hi my husband is direct descendant of Francis Schamburg. Francis/Frank was born in MEMEL PRUSSIA Memel is now called Kleipeda in East Prussia Lithuania. Frank died 16/02/1871 age 70 in Workhouse Mill Road Everton He had been living @ 59 Tatlock Street Liverpool. I have his death certificate He died of Smallpox  Informant on certificate was his daughter Catherine Riley nee Schamburg.
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COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE