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What would be my next step?
« on: Friday 03 April 15 11:49 BST (UK) »
I've found my 5x Great Grandfather Ralph Brierley, and a marriage record for him to a Matilda Ward in 1850 in St. Mary's, Oldham, Lancashire, England.  It lists both of their fathers (Thomas Brierley and William Ward), but not their mothers. What would be my next step be in finding out more about Matilda?
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« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 April 15 11:52 BST (UK) »
How old was Matilda on her marriage? If you can find her in 1841 that may give her mother's name.
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 April 15 12:03 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately, the marriage info doesn't include her age at the time.  I know it's not very accurate, but since I know my Grandfather was born in Saddleworth, Yorkshire in 1830, I've found a Matilda Ward also born in Saddleworth in 1828 who's father's name is also William and mother's name is Hannah - but I can't be sure that's her.  If it is, that Matilda Ward I found on the 1841 Census, but she's a servant in a household, so parents weren't listed.
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 April 15 12:15 BST (UK) »
Did Matilda die before 1861? Is this Ralph then?

 RG 9; Piece: 3238; Folio: 57; Page: 25
 Saddleworth
 
Ralph Brierley   30  widower     Blacksmith       Saddleworth
Alice Brierley   7    dau                                  Royton
Thomas Brierley   3    son                                  Royton
John AR Brierley   9/12  son                               Saddleworth
Alice Brierley   67  grandmother                     Saddleworth
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 April 15 12:17 BST (UK) »
Deaths

March 1861
Brierley    Matilda        Saddleworth    9a   164
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 April 15 12:20 BST (UK) »
That is Ralph! He then remarried (Susan Griffith in 1865) and had more kids - but my direct relation is through the marriage to Matilda, so I was hoping to find her parents.  I found a death for a Matilda Brierley in Jan of 1861 in Saddleworth, but not with any valuable information attached to it.
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 April 15 12:21 BST (UK) »
In 1851 Ralph is an apprentice blacksmith and is given as married, but Matilda isn't with him. So we need to find her in 1851.
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Re: What would be my next step?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 April 15 12:24 BST (UK) »
I think I found her in 1851 in Saddleworth, listed as Matilda Brierley (married) but she was the house servant to a family called the Buckleys, and Ralph isn't with her.
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 April 15 12:25 BST (UK) »
Oh bother - she's working as a servant!  At least that gives POB and date about 1829.

HO107; Piece: 2290; Folio: 368; Page: 8
 
Francis S Buckley   47
Sarah Buckley   43
Margaret S Buckley   4
Mary Hurst   27
Matilda Brierley   22    servant           Saddleworth
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