Pitt family (Sydney - Maybe from Spain)

[tracy67]

Ok 

[majm]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQY9-5YD baptism .... image available via a commercial site

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPW5-HVN

Cheers,  JM

[cando]

My GG-Father Charles Edward Pitt B: 1868 (Sydney)
My GGG-Father Charles J Pitt B:1850 (?)

Do you have any certificates?

Charles Saunders PITT is not be the father of your Charles J PITT.  Charles S was born in 1813 in Norfolk, England and died in 1874.  His son Charles J born 1850 died in 1899 in Callan Park Mental Hospital.

Birth of your grandfather
32072/1900     
PITT    Francis E A    
Father Charles E  Mother Mary H
District Hurstville

Birth of your great grandfather
1170/1868    
PITT   Charles E   
Father Charles Mother Harriette
District Sydney

Marriage of your gggrandfather
586/1863    
PITT   Charles J
COLERAINE   Harriette
District Sydney

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13082394
Sydney Morning Herald  31 Jul 1863
MARRIAGES. 
On the 23rd instant, by special license, at St. James' Church, by the Rev. Mr. Moreton, Mr. Charles Pitt, jun., to Harriette, eldest daughter of Mr. D. Coleraine, of this city.

A transcription of the marriage certificate should give you Charles J's age, place of birth and his parents' names, mother's maiden name and his father's occupation.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html#transcription

Death of Harriet/te

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article60828381
The Empire 20 Oct  1868
DEATH.
On the 19th instant, at her residence, 498, George-street, Harriet, the beloved wife of Charles Pitt, of typhoid fever, leaving an affectionate husband and three young children to deplore their loss.

Re-marriage
261/1869     
PITT    Charles
JOHNSON    Mary J
District Sydney

According to  online information Charles J PITT was born c1833 London and emigrated to Australia in 1856 with his mother and sister.  He was a watchmaker.

Sydney Morning Herald  9 Dec 1876
PITT. —December 7, at his residence, No. 108, Albion-street, Surry Hills, Mr. Charles Pitt, watchmaker, from dropsy and heart disease, aged 43 years, leaving an affectionate wife and family to mourn their loss.

Death
2396/1876     
PITT    Charles
Father Charles  Mother Mary A
District Sydney

1851 Census  HO107/1488/691/P/30
Living at 3 Duke Street, St Marylebone, London
PITT Charles  Head 51  Watchmaker  Born France
PITT Mary Ann Wife 41  Born Berkshire
PITT Hanah    30    Born Sloan Street
PITT Adelaide 19       Born Sloan Street
PITT Charles 17  Watchmaker  Born Duke Street
PITT Ann Mother 79 Born France
KITE Martha  Visitor 77  Born Wickham
TUNCIA Harriett Servant  19  Born ?Savory Hill
VERZ Jaigues 54  Born Frankfurt
JACKSON Edward Lodger 30  Glass cutter  Born Dublin
JACKSON William Lodger 28  Glass cutter  Born Dublin


Cando

[tracy67]

Thank you Cando
I have francis edward anderson pitt birth, death and marriage certificate as he is my grand father.
The story is my father isn't well and we don't have much info on his family so trying to trace back where the family originally came from England or Spain? 
Thank you
Tracy 67

[cando]

Yes I am aware your know who your grandfather is however it is necessary to work from what you know backwards and as you see I have found what I believe is your family in London in 1851 before emigration to NSW.

It would appear that Charles J's father Charles was born in France as was his grandmother.  All on the census.

The 1863 marriage certificate would give you the names of Charles J's parents including his mother's maiden name and his father's occupation.

You can purchase a transcription of the certificate which is a cheaper option to the more expensive certified certificate.


Cando

[cando]

Buried at Rookwood Old Church of England, Section E, Row 10, Grave#609

Charles PITT
6 Jun 1876  43 years
Leaving a widow & 7 children

May be Charles J’s mother’s death

901/1879
PITT Mary A
Father George  Died Surry Hills
District Sydney

Buried 14 Oct 1897 [Grass plot]  90 years
Rookwood Old Catholic Mortuary 1, Section P, Grave#660

Cando

[cando]

Leaving a widow & 7 children

 

Births to Charles and Harriet/te, District Sydney
1532/1864  PITT    Margaret H    [Died 1933 as WATT]
2143/1865  PITT    Charles E    [Died 1865]
1991/1866  PITT    Adelaide M  [Died 1934]
1170/1868  PITT    Charles E    [Died 1917]

Births to Charles and Mary Jane, District Sydney
117/1870     PITT    Florence H  [Died 1936 as WHEELER]
379/1871     PITT    Alice M       [Died 1904]
846/1873     PITT    George W [Died 1949]
2200/1876  PITT    Arthur Ernest    [only one A E PITT death in NSW and in 1957 with mother Mary Jane but father is incorrect - could be simply an error.]

Cando

[tracy67]

I have some research thank you all

[cando]

Death of Charles J's father
1354/1867
PITT Charles  Age 67 years  Died Sydney
District Sydney

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13149764
Sydney Morning Herald  26 Jun 1867
FUNERAL.—The Friends of the late Mr CHARLES PITT, sen., Watchmaker, are respectfully invited to   attend his Funeral ; to move from his late residence, No. 548, George-street, THIS (Monday) AFTERNOON, at 3 o'clock. C. KINSELA and SON, Undertakers, Sussex- street South, and South Head Road.

There is a probate packet at NSW Records
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\232631
Charles PITT, date of death 22 Jun 1867, granted 5 Aug 1867

Cando