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Desth off great great grandparents beech
« on: Monday 06 April 15 02:44 BST (UK) »
Looking for death records off william and Mary beech

I have them in 1891 census

William beech 1820 71 bilston
Mary beech 1840 51 Wheaton Aston
Henry beech 23 son lilleshall
Edward beech 17 son marsh lane
Jessie beech 12 mash lane
Selina beech 10 daughter 1881

I know william beechs first wife Martha died in 1859 shropshire not long after the birth of william Henry beech in 1855

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Re: Desth off great great grandparents beech
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 April 15 05:01 BST (UK) »
The names are so common you would have to search deaths around the area they last lived maybe. Which county/town were they in?
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Desth off great great grandparents beech
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 April 15 06:49 BST (UK) »
Wondering if this is Mary Beech in Tettenhall, Staffs in the 1901 Census:

RG 13 / 2667 / 17 / 25

Mary Beech, Head, W, 60, Nurse, Staffordshire Wheaton Aston
Louisa Beach, Boarder, 5, Staffordshire, Tettenhall
Harold Blything, Boarder, 5, Staffordshire, Tettenhall

It looks like William dies between 1891 and 1901. Have you found the rest of the family in 1901?

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Re: Desth off great great grandparents beech
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 April 15 11:35 BST (UK) »
No I ain't find the family in 1901


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Re: Desth off great great grandparents beech
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 April 15 14:12 BST (UK) »
William BEECH
Buried 12 May 1898, St Michael & All Angels, Tettenhall, Staffordshire
Abode Tettenhall Wood
Age 79
(Source FreeREG)

Looks very likely as there is this Burial also same Church;
Mary BEECH, 17 July 1923
Age 81
Abode Evans St, Wolverhampton
(FreeREG)
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 April 15 19:57 BST (UK) »
Trish thank you so much for that information I though william beech died in shropshire but just need to find WILLIAMS marriage to mary.

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Re: Desth off great great grandparents beech
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 April 15 02:44 BST (UK) »
Ok, trying to trace back to narrow down Marriage time-frame;

1881 we have;
William Beach    62
Mary Beach    45
Henry Beach    14
Annie Beach    12
Louisa Beach    9
Edwin Beach    7
Jessie Beach    2
Selina Beach

1871 we have;
William Berch    50
Mary Berch    30
Mary Berch    11
James Berch    10
Emma Berch    8
Samuel Berch    7
Jane Berch    5
Henry Berch    3
Annie Berch    1


1861 we have;
William Beech    39
Mary Beech    21
William Beech    6
Mary Beech    2
James Beech    7/12, born Tong, Shropshire*

WILLIAM HENRY Beech, Christened 10 Sept 1855, Donington, Shropshire, Parents WILLIAM/MARTHA
MARY Beech Christened 26 Dec 1858, Weston uner Lizard, Staffordshire, Parents WILLIAM/MARTHA
JAMES Bach*** Christened 9 Sept 1860, Tong, Shropshire, Parents WILLIAM/MARY
(Source Familysearch.Org)

AH, looks good;

This Marriage is Reg on FreeBMD, Sept 1860, Wolverhampton, but I female Spouse is missing. William Beech is there though.

MARRIAGE;
28 July 1860, St Peters, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
William BEECH, age 38, Widower, Labourer,  abode Tettenhall**, Father THOMAS Beech
Mary CARTWRIGHT, age 20, Spinster,abode Whitmore Reans,  Father WILLIAM Cartwright
Witnesses, John Beech/Leah Jones
Notes, by Banns; Grooms father deceased*
(Source FreeREG)

Cheers,
Trish :)
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Re: Desth off great great grandparents beech
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 April 15 03:56 BST (UK) »
1841 Census
Long St, Wheaten Aston
Lapley, Staffordshire
HO107/974/8/Lapley
William CARTWRIGHT, 25, Blacksmith
Jane Cartwright, 20

MARY Cartwright Christened 11 August 1841, Lapley, Staffordshire to WILLIAM/JANE, Sister CAROLINE Same day
WILLIAM 23 April 1843
SARAH 18 Jan 1846
THOMAS, 22 Aug 1852
JOSEPH EZEKIAL, 22 Aug 1852
(only searched 1841-1853)


1851 Census
Village of Wheaton Aston,
Chapel Bank,
Lapley, Staffs
HO107/2016/194/11
William Cartwright, 35, Ag Lab
Jane Cartwright, 33
Caroline Cartwright, 10
William Cartwright, 8
Sarah Cartwright, 5
Roda Cartwright, 2

Now MARY is not home in 1851 but there are possible Marys age 11ish as Servant in 1851 Census.
With the Bold Family born c 1840 Bilston.

Not positive this is her but Wheaton Ash connection is what I went with.
Also we know her Father is a William from her Marriage 1860.
Looks like William has stopped being a Blacksmith by 1851 so a downturn in income may be why Mary is away from home working.

1840 Wolverhampton Marriage of William Cartright/Jane WARD is on FreeREG also. His Father Ezekial

FreeREG also has a EZEKIAL Cartwright buried All Saints, Lapley 1845 age 80, abode Wheaton
Aston. (Birth c 1765)
And another 1865 age 76 (1789)
Father/Son?

A Tree has Mary Cartwright (1841) dying 1845 but I have found no evidence that confirms this other than a FReeBMD Death Reg.
I think they may have just jumped on this as she is not on the 1851 Census with the Family.

Anyhow look over this and see what you think.
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