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TESTER-GOLDSMITH Marriage 1864 - Reg District of Hailsham
« on: Wednesday 08 April 15 15:00 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Incomer from the Kent Board here.  I wonder if anyone would have access to PR for possibly Chiddingly for the above marriage.  Ansley (Ainsley) Tester m John Goldsmith 1st Q 1864.  He was a widower but I need to find her Father's name if possible.  There are two Ansley Tester threads I could follow with relatively similar details (dob etc) and I could do with nailing the right one.

Thanks in advance!
Alex
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Re: TESTER-GOLDSMITH Marriage 1864 - Reg District of Hailsham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 April 15 20:19 BST (UK) »

Hi Alex,  I can see your dilemma. 

Ansley seems consistent in saying born in Mayfield doesn't she?  I can see her in 1851 - 1871 and 1881.

Can't however see any Tester Baptisms in Mayfield in the right time frame  ???   

1851 has her as the step daughter of William Henley...his wife Henrietta born Waldron c1806.  This would imply that Henrietta had previously been married to a Tester.  Maybe someone could check the SMI for a marriage?  please (my disc has ceased to function)

Quick look, can't find anything meaningful in 1841 - there is however a Henrietta TESTER baptised in Waldron 30/08/ 1812, parents Samuel and Mary.  Possibility that Ansley was illegitimate ?

I think I would want a copy of the marriage cert. to John Goldsmith.

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Re: TESTER-GOLDSMITH Marriage 1864 - Reg District of Hailsham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 April 15 20:35 BST (UK) »

Maybe someone could check the SMI for a marriage?  please (my disc has ceased to function)


Henrietta SANDS ( wid ) m William HENLY 28 Feb 1832 Buxted  SX

Henrietta TESTER m William SANDS 19 Nov 1828 Framfield SX
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Re: TESTER-GOLDSMITH Marriage 1864 - Reg District of Hailsham
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 April 15 21:18 BST (UK) »

Maybe someone could check the SMI for a marriage?  please (my disc has ceased to function)


Henrietta SANDS ( wid ) m William HENLY 28 Feb 1832 Buxted  SX

Henrietta TESTER m William SANDS 19 Nov 1828 Framfield SX

Many thanks CB53.

Looks like the marriage to William Sands was short, can't see any Sands baptisms in Framfield prior to 1838 :-\
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Re: TESTER-GOLDSMITH Marriage 1864 - Reg District of Hailsham
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 April 15 09:15 BST (UK) »
I think I found them in 1841 in Mayfield :

William HENDEY 30 Ag lab
Henny HENDEY 35
Caroline HENDEY 7
Tilden       "  5
Sally         "  3
Jane         "  3 mos
Annesly TESTER 15
William SANDS 12
July SANDS 9

The last three are missing from the transcript.

HO107 1116 6 21 10
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Re: TESTER-GOLDSMITH Marriage 1864 - Reg District of Hailsham
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 April 15 09:44 BST (UK) »
I think I found them in 1841 in Mayfield :

William HENDEY 30 Ag lab
Henny HENDEY 35
Caroline HENDEY 7
Tilden       "  5
Sally         "  3
Jane         "  3 mos
Annesly TESTER 15
William SANDS 12
July SANDS 9

The last three are missing from the transcript.

HO107 1116 6 21 10

Well done!  All children fit with the two marriages so it's looking likely that Annesly was born out of wedlock, would you agree?
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Re: TESTER-GOLDSMITH Marriage 1864 - Reg District of Hailsham
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 April 15 10:24 BST (UK) »
Yes , I agree. It does seem likely. The 1864 marriage certificate may help , although there's always the possibility of an 'invented' father.
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Re: TESTER-GOLDSMITH Marriage 1864 - Reg District of Hailsham
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 April 15 11:05 BST (UK) »
Yes , I agree. It does seem likely. The 1864 marriage certificate may help , although there's always the possibility of an 'invented' father.

I agree,  I see three options, either blank, completely fictitious father or "William" Tester.
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Hertfordshire - Sturgeon. Bird. Rule. Claxton. Taylor. Braggins

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Re: TESTER-GOLDSMITH Marriage 1864 - Reg District of Hailsham
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 April 15 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Thank you for your replies, I'm very grateful.

My dilemma is that I believed (I haven't got the MC and can't remember where this came from) that she was also a widow when she married John Goldsmith.  I had thought that her maiden name was Newnham.  I thought she was born Ansley Newnham to Robert and Philadelphia Newnham and married Edward Tester.  I'm going to go back over the research I did a while ago from scratch and work out why I thought she was married to Edward Tester.

John Goldsmith was my G3 Grandfather, but Ansley was not my G3 grandmother, his first wife Ruth Greenfield was.

I'll keep digging unless anyone can help with this information.  I can always get the MC but I was hoping there were PR that might help!

Cheers

Alex

Kent - Aldington, Bredhurst, Chatham, Gillingham, Hollingbourne, Lynsted, Newington, Rainham, Ramsgate, Smeeth, Snodland, Stockbury, Teynham, Upchurch<br />Surrey - Croydon<br />Sussex - Hellingly, Limspfield<br />Names - Chambers, Flynn, Giblett, Hart, Hodgman, Goldsmith, Lacy, Tucker, Hales, Callaway, Hubbard, Mudge, Wills, Barnden

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