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Re: Ann (Annie) Williams drowned aged 80 ? in Pwllheli 1980 ?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 13 April 15 07:44 BST (UK) »
Many thanks and special thanks to "B". Now I have more information I will try the archive of the local newspapers.

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Re: Ann (Annie) Williams drowned aged 80 ? in Pwllheli 1980 ?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 13 April 15 16:28 BST (UK) »
Hi
Are you sure that you've got the correct surname ? 'B' referred to her as Annie JONES; I assumed she was referring to Annie's maiden name. I've found a Welsh newspaper account of the death of an Annie JONES of Tyddyn Caled (Tyddyncaled), in tragic circumstances, in March 1981. Doesn't give the circumstances of death, or the date; she was cremated at Bangor on 13/03/1981.
Annie was the daughter of the late Griffith & Jane Williams of Tanybryn, Rhydyclafdy. Her husband, still alive at time of her death, was Gwyn Jones.  She had a son and daughter inlaw, Griffith John and Mary. Two grandchildren are named, will name them in a PM, as they might still be alive. Mr & Mrs James Ifor Jones, Pencaenewydd, Mr & Mrs Thomas Jones, Mynytho, and Mr & Mrs Stanley Jones, Nefyn are named as brothers and sisters inlaw. Various other relatives are named.
Do these names mean anything to you?
Will be passing thro' Caernarfon on Wednesday. If I have time I'll call at the Gwynedd Archivesd to see if I can find more info.
Emyr

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Re: Ann (Annie) Williams drowned aged 80 ? in Pwllheli 1980 ?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 13 April 15 18:58 BST (UK) »
This is all so brilliant, thank you.  Gwyn Jones is correct as Annie's partner but as far as I know they didn't marry. Maybe married later in life after her sons were born. Where did you get her parent's names from? There were just too many variables to be sure I was looking at the correct person. I will order the various certificates now I can be certain it is the person I am looking for. I will put up another post if I need more details in the future.


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Re: Ann (Annie) Williams drowned aged 80 ? in Pwllheli 1980 ?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 13 April 15 19:38 BST (UK) »
There is a potential marriage in 1957? From freebmd:

Surname    First name(s)    Spouse    District    Vol    Page
Marriages Jun 1957
JONES    Ann      JONES    Anglesey W.    8a   57   
JONES    Robert G    JONES    Anglesey W.    8a   57   
JONES    Violet M    WILLIAMS    Anglesey W.    8a   57    
WILLIAMS    Gwynfor    JONES    Anglesey W.    8a   57   

I don't have a family connection to these people but still want to say thanks to everyone who is helping so much. Incredible. I love this site so much :)
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Re: Ann (Annie) Williams drowned aged 80 ? in Pwllheli 1980 ?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 13 April 15 20:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Jacksnana,
I'm not sure what certificates you need to order - hold on for the time being. I'll send PM tomorrow.
1911 Census, Annie's age is given as 9.
Emyr

Hi Angelfish,
There is no Anglesey connection. Newspaper article says Annie had lived all her life in the area where she died. I've traced her family in 1911 and 1901 Censuses. Haven't looked further back.
Emyr

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Re: Ann (Annie) Williams drowned aged 80 ? in Pwllheli 1980 ?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 17 April 15 11:17 BST (UK) »
Hi
Article in Caernarvon & Denbigh Herald, Gwynedd South & West Edition, Fri. 13/03/1981:
BODY FOUND.
"The body of 76 year old Mrs Annie Jones, Tyddyn Caled, Penrhos, was found by police on the Pwllheli beach, a short distance from the golf links late on Monday evening. She had left the house at about 4.30 pm to collect winkles, and later in the evening her husband, Mr E G Jones informed police that she had not returned. The Lleyn & Eifionydd Coroner, Mr Cyril Davies has been informed of the facts."
NOTE.
The area being sandy, I suggest that 'cockles' rather than 'winkles' is correct.
Age 76 ?

27/03/1981 p.19
Report of funeral in same paper (English version of Herald Cymraeg ), gives same info as previously supplied, and in addition list of those who sent flowers.
Emyr

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Re: Ann (Annie) Williams drowned aged 80 ? in Pwllheli 1980 ?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 17 April 15 11:38 BST (UK) »
Hi
Re. my last reply - note name of husband E G Jones.

Civil marriage in last quarter of 1938, Pwllheli & Portmadoc Registration District:
Annie Williams  to  Ellis G Jones.

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Re: Ann (Annie) Williams drowned aged 80 ? in Pwllheli 1980 ?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 17 April 15 17:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all this information and the time you have taken on my behalf, your help is very much appreciated.

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Re: Ann (Annie) Williams drowned aged 80 ? in Pwllheli 1980 ?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 17 May 15 09:33 BST (UK) »
Hi
Saw 'B' yesterday; she says that it was mussels Annie was picking ! No further info.
Emyr