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Hi would anyone be able to find a register or baptism for Elizabeth Crishold.  She is supposedly born around 1838, in Southwark.  From her marriage to William James GEE in 1856 I have found her father's name.  On the marriage banns a witness is Mary Ann Crishold - I do not know if this is a mother or sibling.  Any help in finding any information on the above would be appreciated. 

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Re: Birth register for Elizabeth Crisshold/Crishold daughter of Edward Crishold
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 16:02 BST (UK) »
Not what you were asking for, I know. But one step further back - here she is in 1851 as Betsy

1851
Great Union Street, Southwark
H/H of a Thomas Medwin and family
Betsy Crishold 13 servant bn Souuthwark
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Re: Birth register for Elizabeth Crisshold/Crishold daughter of Edward Crishold
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 17:32 BST (UK) »
On her marriage record in 1856 it says she is of full age (21 or over), so either she fibbed or she was born earlier than 1838. If she was a servant in 1851, her employer may not have know her real age when the census form was filled in.
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Re: Birth register for Elizabeth Crisshold/Crishold daughter of Edward Crishold
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 18:07 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Could this be Elizabeth? on FamilySearch IGI Site Indexed Section.

Elizabeth Crishold
Birth Date 27-Sept-1838
Baptism 6-Feb-1839
Holy Trinity,Newington,Surrey,England
Fathers name  William  Crishold
Mothers name  Elizabeth



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Re: Birth register for Elizabeth Crisshold/Crishold daughter of Edward Crishold
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 18:11 BST (UK) »
Hi at marriage her father was an Edward occ Hawker, in 1871 with the family is a Mary A Gee, but I believe incorrectly dittoed with rest of family shown as Mother in Law aged 61 occ Hawker b Southwark
Census Ref RG10/604/43/20

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Re: Birth register for Elizabeth Crisshold/Crishold daughter of Edward Crishold
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 April 15 18:24 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Could this be Elizabeth? on FamilySearch IGI Site Indexed Section.

Kathy

Kathy beat me to it there. Newington is basically in Southwark. Have you been able to find William Gee with father William? It would not be the first time I'd seen bride and groom info mixed up on a cert. It's entirely possible that her father was William and his was Edward. Worth considering, certainly.

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Re: Birth register for Elizabeth Crisshold/Crishold daughter of Edward Crishold
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 April 15 03:45 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Could this be Elizabeth? on FamilySearch IGI Site Indexed Section.

Kathy

Kathy beat me to it there. Newington is basically in Southwark. Have you been able to find William Gee with father William? It would not be the first time I'd seen bride and groom info mixed up on a cert. It's entirely possible that her father was William and his was Edward. Worth considering, certainly.

Hi the mother of William Gee is also living with the family in 1871, she is a Martha Gee, in 1851 she is married to a William, included in their children, is a William aged 16 ( 36 in 1871 above)

A possible death for Elizabeth?

Elizabeth Gee June qtr 1877 St Olave 1d 138 aged 39
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Re: Birth register for Elizabeth Crisshold/Crishold daughter of Edward Crishold
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 April 15 08:42 BST (UK) »
Maybe a red herring - or maybe this could be her in 1841, recorded as Clissold?

St MArys, Kennington
Thomas Burke 65 gardener N
Mary Clissold 30 laundress Y
Elizabeth Clissold 2 Y

Perhaps Mary was a widow, Edward having died. Or perhaps Elizabeth was illegitimate and made up father Edward for her marriage cert.


modified - maybe not, as there is a Brixton christening for an Elizabeth Clissold, dtr of JAMES and Mary, which might be the girl from 1841. :(
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Re: Birth register for Elizabeth Crisshold/Crishold daughter of Edward Crishold
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 April 15 08:55 BST (UK) »
Hi I think I looked that baptism up, was it a father James occ Porter?
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