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George Carter
« on: Monday 27 April 15 16:10 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find a birth record for my great-grandfather George Carter. According to Census entries he was born in Alton, Hampshire, England around 1861. I have a copy of his marriage certificate from 1889 in Godalming, Surrey which gives his father's name as Thomas Parfitt Carter but I can find no trace at all of him.

I cannot find George on any Census prior to 1891. Can anyone shed any light please?

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Re: George Carter
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 April 15 16:58 BST (UK) »
In the absence of any evidence for the existence of Thomas Parfitt Carter and George before the 1891 census, I would suggest that George was possibly illegitimate and made up the father's name on the marriage cert for the sake of propriety.

I could suggest his father might have been Thomas Parfitt (not Carter) as there are Parfitts in the Alton area on the censuses around George's birth.
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Re: George Carter
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 April 15 17:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that suggestion, it sounds the most likely at the moment. I will investigate Parfitts.



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Re: George Carter
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 April 15 17:11 BST (UK) »
George Carter, labourer, born Hollybone nr Alton, Hants, was said to be 19yrs 1mo old when he attested at Chichester for the Royal Sussex Regiment on 22 November 1881.

He gave exemplary service from then until his discharge on 22 November 1893, serving at home, in Malta and in Egypt.  The final stretch of his service was as a reservist (May 1889-Nov 1893).

Next of kin: Brother H. Parfitt Whateley Binstead nr Alton Hants.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Carter
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 April 15 17:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you, I will certainly look into that one.

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Re: George Carter
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 April 15 17:32 BST (UK) »
The 1881 census shows these Parfitts in Wheatley, Binsted (RG11/1247/39/28):

Thomas Parfitt Head Mar 60 Labourer Hants Binstead
Mary A. do Wife Mar 50 Middlesex Sunbury
Harry do Son 9 Hants Binsted

(and next household...)

Maria Parfitt Head Wid 49 Charwoman Hants Binsted
with offspring Ann 21, Martha 19, Henry 15, John 17?, Ernest 4, all born Binsted.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Carter
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 April 15 17:40 BST (UK) »
In 1871 Thomas & Mary Ann Parfett of Wheatley, Binsted have with them a "grandson", William Carter, 9 b Binsted.

RG10/1227/38/24
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Carter
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 April 15 17:43 BST (UK) »
Thomas was unmarried in 1861.

Likely marriage:

Dec qtr 1867

Thomas PARFETT
Mary Ann CARTER

on the same page, Alton 2c 305
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Carter
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 April 15 17:47 BST (UK) »
A possible for Mary Ann before marriage is the Mary Carter, 29 b Sunbury, in service in Winchester in 1861.

RG 9/691/107/32.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)