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St Marylebone Workhouse
« on: Wednesday 29 April 15 14:36 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me what the phrase 'to be passed' might mean, when applied to circumstances under which the party was admitted to the workhouse. My Parkin family went into St Marylebone workhouse in Sept. 1849, with this in the relevant column, and in the remarks column. Father William was passed in Dec 1849, and mum Phoebe and the three children were discharged at their own request in the October.
I'm having trouble finding them in the census returns, and it may help.
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Katie

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Re: St Marylebone Workhouse
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 April 15 15:54 BST (UK) »
? Passed for admission? Not seen that term in that context before.
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Re: St Marylebone Workhouse
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 April 15 16:04 BST (UK) »
The record says Cause of Discharge "passed"

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Re: St Marylebone Workhouse
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 April 15 16:31 BST (UK) »
In the other record, for Sept. 22nd 1849, the whole family have against their names, in the "Circumstances under which the Party was admitted" column "To be passed"

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Re: St Marylebone Workhouse
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 April 15 16:41 BST (UK) »
It could mean they were to be passed to another workhouse. According to http://www.workhouses.org.uk/StMarylebone/ St. Marylebone workhouse was overcrowded due in large part to the famine in Ireland.

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Re: St Marylebone Workhouse
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 April 15 13:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Stan
That's an interesting point, I may have to search further afield for them.
There is a possible match for the males of the family in the 1851 census in St George Hanover Square Workhouse, which is the same parish the boys were baptised at, but I can't find Phoebe anywhere (yet), nor my great-great grandma Alice.
I'll keep looking!
Thanks for your help, Katie

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Re: St Marylebone Workhouse
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 April 15 13:36 BST (UK) »
It means he was passed back to his parish of legal settlement, which may or may not have been where he was born. It's a standard poor law term. Nothing to do with how full the workhouse was. :)

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Re: St Marylebone Workhouse
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 April 15 14:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you, that makes sense, although it doesn't get me any further as I don't know where they were born - I still can't find them on the census! I suspect William has a Yorkshire background from other things I've found, but Phoebe is a bit of a blank. The couple married in 1837, and I have the baptism and/or birth records for their 3 children, but that's about it!
This workhouse record gives their ages, but it hasn't proved to be the help I thought it might. Oh well, the search goes on!
I do appreciate the help though.
Katie

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Re: St Marylebone Workhouse
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 April 15 14:18 BST (UK) »
It means he was passed back to his parish of legal settlement, which may or may not have been where he was born. It's a standard poor law term. Nothing to do with how full the workhouse was. :)
This would mean a removal order under the poor law Act of Settlement and Removal. The Settlement Act allowed for the removal from a parish, back to their place of settlement, of newcomers whom local justices deemed "likely to be chargeable" to the parish poor rates.

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