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Where is Amy
« on: Thursday 30 April 15 17:17 BST (UK) »
 Hi, l hope you can h help with this one, my ancestor Maria Travi   1890-1915 married James Morgan 1887 in 1909, on the 1911 census they have a daughter Amy 1910, l cannot find a birth for Amy but l have found her in and out of City Road workhouse infirmary august to october 1910 with her mother Maria her birth date on infirmary record is 29.12.1909.
Maria died in 1915 and her fathers military record records next of kin Arthur Morgan father but no mention of Amy,
Did she die or did he give her to someone else as has happened as we know.
Going round in circles with this one fresh eyes needed.

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Re: Where is Amy
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 April 15 17:59 BST (UK) »
You haven't said where the "City Road workhouse infirmary" is actually located so it's difficult to start searching for any clues for you but if Amy was a child then her father's military record would be unlikely to list her as next of kin.
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Re: Where is Amy
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 April 15 18:18 BST (UK) »
Amy Morgan

Birth Date:
29 Dec 1909

Admission Age:
0

Admission Date:
8 Aug 1910

Discharge Date:
13 Sep 1910

Record Type:
Admission and Discharge

Parish or Poor Law Union:
Holborn


City Road Workhouse (St Luke's and Other Workhouses) Register, 1910-1916

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Re: Where is Amy
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 April 15 18:48 BST (UK) »
I note that in july 1910 she is in workhouse gain with father james but she is given as Florence amy. have you checked this name for births and deaths etc


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Re: Where is Amy
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 April 15 19:09 BST (UK) »
Is Amy / Florence's dob always consistent?
I notice a little porky was told about the length of time Maria and James had been married in 1911
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Where is Amy
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 April 15 19:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Reflector,

Don't know whether this helps or not but...

Are you sure that her name was Amy?

I ask because I notice that James Morgan & Maria Travi married in Dec qtr 1909 in the Shoreditch registration district. In the same qtr (December) a birth of an Annie Florence Morgan is also registered in 1909 in the Shoreditch registration district.

Was she Amy or Annie?

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Re: Where is Amy
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 April 15 20:12 BST (UK) »
James and Maria married on Oct 4th 1909 at St Mary's Hoxton.
The birth place of Amy (1911 census) could have been in Shoreditch district. It seems to move around a lot in early 1900s. Holborn and Islington are also possible districts
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Where is Amy
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 May 15 15:33 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for you replies,
l have marriage of James andMaria 4th Oct 1909.
On 1911 it does look like Amy but will take another look and check the Annie Florence (possible as Florence was Maria's mothers name)
l did check Florence Amy but her mother had another name but will do another check.
On the Army records there is a box re marriage and any children l thought he would have put Amy there but no childrens name  ???
Will have another go and see if anything turns up, l will keep you posted
Thankyou

 
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Re: Where is Amy
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 May 15 17:36 BST (UK) »
Hi, l have checked names
Annie Florence parents James and Elizabeth
Florence Amy      "           "                "
Florence Annie     "       William and Florence.

l think i shall admit defeat on this as l do really believe that James let some one else fetch Amy up as their own with a differant surname, but if anybody has a breakthrough l would be delighted.
thankyou all.
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