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missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« on: Saturday 02 May 15 22:12 BST (UK) »
My father never knew his cousins or even how many he had
 his father Thomas MacDermid b1903 was the 8th of 10 children born between 1885 and 1910
   my  great grandfather Malcom McDermid(various spellings from censuses since 1871) died falling off a roof  when my grandad was 7
   Agnes died in 1920  . My grandfather went to sea + eventually settled in plymouth
most of the siblings emigrated to USA and New zealand some had children
(I wil post on relative area forums to find them )
 . brother Walter died in  Belgium WW1

I'm trying to find if the remaining elder  brothers had any children

Duncan b1882 was a grocers clerk in 1901 aged 18 single  he seems to have died in 1910 but I don't know if he was married or had children

Andrew Kyle Macdermid was a clothlapper in 1911 and married Elizabeth McDiarmid
He was living at 30 dean's avenue in 1929  (given as next of kin on siblings travel documents)
 did he have children? he died in 1964 in east kilbride . Lanarkshire

Malcom Macdermid b1894 was a  boot repairer aged 17  in 1911 ..
in army in 1913  aged 19 single   
no idea what became of him later .

any help would be appreciated .

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Re: missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 May 15 22:42 BST (UK) »
What area of lanarkshire did the McDermott from I know there is different spellings of the surname

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Re: missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 May 15 22:59 BST (UK) »
 Cambuslang was where most of the children's births are registered
Malcom's parents Duncan Macdermid+Agnes Mcfarlane were b in Pollockshire
Spellings for Malcom  occur as McDearmid   in Census 1871
                                            Mc Diarmid                 1881
                                            McDermid                   1891
                                            Mcdermid                    1901

the d ending is consistent so I think the McDermott's are a different family
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Re: missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 May 15 23:07 BST (UK) »
Duncan d 17 Sep 1910 his usual address was Dennistoun.  He was married to Cecelia Robson.  His brother Andrew was the informant.

The informant on Andrew's death registration is a noted as also being a MacDermind but only as an intimate friend.  His wife is listed, not marked deceased so possibly she was still living.

No sign of Malcolm, perhaps he didn't survive the war.

If you want these registrations, send me a PM with your email.

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 May 15 23:21 BST (UK) »
Have seen documents sent by .Don

Duncan seems to have somehow drowned in some water tub it's a bit illegible
his wife Celia nee Robson died in 1944 her death was registered by their son  Duncan M.MacDermid 

so sad that Duncan aged 27 died In Sept ,the same year as his father aged 48 had died
Family story is that Malcom fell off a roof but i don't have the death cert to prove it  .

Andrew died in Cumbuslang in 1964 his death is registered by . ?illg initial (mac ?)...Diarmed  an intimate friend residing at a different address to the deceased ... than his spouse tho he was still married to her

The youngest sibling John was born in august 1910 so wouldn't have known his father
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Re: missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 May 15 09:50 BST (UK) »
It says he was found drowned in a Water Tank at the Boghead Nursery, Mount Vernon.

From the the 1911 Census, Celia was born in England, their son Duncan (age 6) born in Ireland and a daughter Mary A (age 1), born in Glasgow.

You can obtain the additional registrations and Census from Scot's People http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 May 15 14:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Don i'll have to join Scotlandspeople next time they do free trial

It raises more questions tho ...did he drown while at work , if it was suicide or suspicious there may have been an inquest

 wonder why was eldest son born in Ireland ??

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 May 15 14:32 BST (UK) »
It was deemed an accident.

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Re: missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 May 15 16:48 BST (UK) »
I have had help + found  2 New zealand cousins + 5 USA ones.
 wouldn't have found  the  1st Scottish ones if don hadn't looked  at Duncan's wife's death cert which their son duncan registered
 then   gone back to 1911 census to find Celia macdermid with 2 children, he may not have known his daughter  who was born the year he died 1910;

I wonder if Andrew's wifes death registration would reveal a child  ; her maiden name was practically same as married name but spelt Mcdiarmid

still don't know if  Malcolm married or had children ;  am trying to follow suggestions given on here but keep getting sent to different pages on computer ....oh dear .
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