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Re: missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« Reply #9 on: Monday 04 May 15 00:29 BST (UK) »
success ; found malcolm's marriage in 1921 to lizzie Dougall
he was a master shoemaker aged 27 his brother James witnessed the marriage still living in cumbuslang

also some possible malcom Macdermid s on valuation rolls in 1925 ..i especially liked tenant occupier of shop on main st, lilybank , cambuslang
 

Found Duncan's widow Celia  as a tenant of John Street lane Glasgow  in 1920 + 1925

so she is not the Mrs macdermid of 22 clydeford rd sited as next of kin in 1923 when Chritina + James left for USA

link to Siblings who went to USA  in 1923 ;agnes macdermid , husband James robertson + son james
James macdermid + sister chrissie   + in 1929 John Macdermid

 http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=719706.msg5635984#msg5635984

+ to Jeannie Macdermid +James Duff black who went to New Zealand

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=719708.msg5635585#msg5635585

Malcolm+ elisabeth macdermid on Australian forum
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Re: missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« Reply #10 on: Monday 04 May 15 17:42 BST (UK) »
  helpfully informed by barbara on Rootschat that malcolm macdermid + his wife Elizabeth Dougall Macdermid did emigrate ..
.to Australia in 1953
last address 73 seaforth Av  Ayr
so if they did have children the births should be on the Scottish records ..can i look without knowing their 1st names ??
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malcolm Macdermid b.scotland 1893 emigrated 1952 , then what ?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 04 May 15 17:59 BST (UK) »
i am trying to find out what became of my grandfathers 10 siblings after a poor start in life  .their father  also malcolm was a clothlapper who lived in a croft in mining region of Scotland

apart from a WW1 death + 1 accident the others lived long lives ; 4 emigrated in the 1920's to USA + 1 to NZ

I found Malcolm renting a boot shop in 1925 but didn't know what became of him or his wife Elizabeth Dougall Macdermid b about 1897

They married on 15/07/1921

A very helpful member on chat page found them arriving in Melbourn on 3rd sept 1952

How do i find out if they became Naturalised + stayed

If they did  i've been told Trove may have obituries .not sure what that involves
 
i don't know if this couple had any children .

any help gratefully received .     

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=719705.msg5636411#msg5636411 
here's the link to the family's scottish origins

+ the link to sibling Jeanie kyle Macdermid  who went to NZ in 1926 with husband james Duff Black + 2 small children 

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=719708.msg5635585#msg5635585 
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Re: malcolm Macdermid b.scotland 1893 emigrated 1952 , then what ?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 04 May 15 19:06 BST (UK) »
On the Freemantle Western Australia Passenger Lists arriving October 1952 ship name Chitral
address going to is c/o Ives Dunlop Street Yarrowonga Victoria

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Re: malcolm Macdermid b.scotland 1893 emigrated 1952 , then what ?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 04 May 15 19:22 BST (UK) »
On the Australian Electoral Rolls 1963 there is a Malcolm Macdermid  and Elizabeth Macdermid ( home duties) living at 9,Vera Street Benyleigh Victoria no way of knowing if this is the right couple as there is no occupation for Malcolm
Elizabeth Macdermid at the same address in 1968 but on her own

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Re: malcolm Macdermid b.scotland 1893 emigrated 1952 , then what ?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 04 May 15 19:46 BST (UK) »
  I have posted threads about the other Macdermid siblings on the New Zealand . USA and Scotland(lanakshire) forums .

Thanks for your input  Rosie
I wonder if Home duties is a professional carer 
Malcolm would have been 70 by 1964 even if he needed a carer but I don't suppose caring for your spouse counts as a proffession in NZ either

He was 60ish when he came to NZ  well deserved  retirement. he'd been repairing shoes  at  17  1911 census but probably started aged 14 like his siblibgs in their trades
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Re: missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« Reply #15 on: Monday 04 May 15 21:53 BST (UK) »
i'll have to join Scotlandspeople next time they do free trial

SP is pay-per-view. You can't 'join' it and there is no subscription option. You have to buy credits. As far as I know they do not do 'free trials' though there have been occasional small issues of free credits as promotional stunts by newspapers.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« Reply #16 on: Monday 04 May 15 21:56 BST (UK) »
there may have been an inquest

There are no inquests in Scotland (and no coroners). There has recently been another thread in which this matter was extensively discussed.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=719105.0

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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: missing cousins; Descendants of Malcom MacDermid+ Jeannie Kyle ;
« Reply #17 on: Monday 04 May 15 22:01 BST (UK) »

so if they did have children the births should be on the Scottish records
Yes, they should be

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..can i look without knowing their 1st names ??
You can certainly look at the index, but as the online index doesn't include mothers' maiden names, and you can't view birth certificates less than 100 years ago, it's unlikely to be worth it.

If you could go to the Scotland's People Centre in Edinburgh you could look the children up fairly easily, though it might take a while if you have to check lots of variants of the surname.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith