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Lead miner Middleton in Teesdale.
« on: Monday 11 May 15 12:32 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

i'm looking for a marriage that may have taken place in Middleton in Teesdale,
James Rowtham to Ann?
thier first child Nelly born 1766 Langdon, Beck,
thier last child Alice was born 1782, Brassington, Derbyshire,
i cant help but wonder if James Rowbotham came to Middleton in Teedale
from Derbyshire and married in Middleton in Teesdale area, but cant discount, Derbyshire.
Any help greatly appreciated.
All the best.
Derek ;)
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Re: Lead miner Middleton in Teesdale.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 May 15 09:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Derek,

Is 1776 a typo?

 GENUKI Middleton - in -Teesdale  pages has these children

Rawbottom, Nelly, bapt 26 Apr 1766, child of James and Nanny of Langdon
burial Rawbottom, Nelly of Longdon, Forrest, d of James - 26 Jun 1766

Rawbotham, William, bapt 3 Nov 1770, child of James and Nanny of Langdon

Rawbottom, John, bapt 28 May 1773, child of John and Ann of Langdon Mines

Rawbottom, Mary, bapt 17 Feb 1776, child of James and Anne of Longdon

Rawbottom, Isaac, bapt 9 Jul 1780, child of James and Ann of Field Head


Durham record office has these references

Ref: D/St/D3/4/106

2 November 1784
(1) Robert Allinson of Low Wemmergill in Lunedale, Yorkshire, yeoman
(2) James Rowbotham of Fieldhead, parish of Middleton, miner
Assignment of lease for residue of 1000 years of West Close and a rigg of land adjoining in south Spotty Land in Holwick
Consideration: £195
Rent: 4s.6d. p.a. to Lord of Manor of Mickleton, and 7d. p.a. to Rector of Romaldkirk
(1 paper)

Did James return from Derbyshire or is this a different person

Ref: D/St/D3/4/108

25 August 1802
(1) James Rowbotham of West Close, Holwick, Yorkshire, miner
(2) James Hogg of Romaldkirk, Yorkshire, merchant
Mortgage in £200 of West Close and 1/2r. adjoining on south of Spotty land in Holwick
(Parchment, 1 membrane)

Ref: D/St/D3/4/111

13 May 1805
(1) James Rowbotham heretofore of Holwick, Yorkshire, now of Arkengarthdale, Yorkshire, miner and innkeeper
(2) James Hogg of Romaldkirk, Yorkshire, merchant
(3) John Watson of Holwick, Yorkshire, yeoman
Assignment to (3) of property as in D/St/D3/4/108
Consideration: £190 to (1) and £200 to (2)
(Parchment, 2 membranes)


There does not seem to have been a marriage in Middleton. I also checked Romaldkirk across the border in Yorkshire as it was also a lead mining area. There were earlier Robothams/Rawbottoms at Staindrop but no James as far as I can see. Also nothing on the Joiner Index of marriages.
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

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William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

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Re: Lead miner Middleton in Teesdale.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 May 15 11:12 BST (UK) »
Hi fiddlerslass ;)

Yes date was wrong for nelly, thanks for pointing it out, James Rowbotham seems to have come from north Derbyshire, so could have married there or even on the way up in Sheffield,
but as first child was born in the area 1766 thought it might have been same area of marriage,
would a death notice be around for James Rowbotham? I did have the information you sent but it was so kind of you to look this up and send it,
many many thanks greatly appreciate help on this posting.
Derek ;)
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Re: Lead miner Middleton in Teesdale.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 May 15 11:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Derek,
 Familysearch has these burials

Ann Rawbottom

England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
   birth:
1791
burial:
9 December 1819
Parish Of Romaldkirk, County Of York
residence:
Eggleston
         
   Elizabeth Robotham

England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
   death:
23 December 1793
Shiply, Co. Durham
residence:
1793
Holwick
         
   Ann Robotham

England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
   death:
11 June 1800
Shiply, Co. Durham
residence:
1800
Holwick
   spouse:
James Robotham

Durham Records online has a James

Burials   Lanchester area 1805   James   Rowbottam   abt 1725   abode Tanfield

which does not seem to fit yours who should be in Teesdale in 1805. There does not seem to be a will probated in Durham either.
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

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Re: Lead miner Middleton in Teesdale.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 May 15 12:00 BST (UK) »
 ;) Hi fidderslass, the death of Ann 11th June 1800 would fit in with my Rowbotham's wouldn't it,
i know family tree's are notorious for getting things wrong but would any one kindly look up any Rowbotham family tree just incase answer's can be found please.

Derek
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Re: Lead miner Middleton in Teesdale.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 May 15 19:07 BST (UK) »
Hi ;)

Fiddlerslass posted documents from Durham showing a Robert Allinson { 2nd November 1784 }
just above James Rowbottom,  can any one come up with any thing on Robert Allinson,
who did he marry, any children.
My reason for asking in Alice Robottom married Isaac Allinson 1801, Romaldkirk,
i'm wondering if!! Robert Allinson is Isaac's father.
Alice Rowbottom was baptised 14th April 1788, Brassington, North Derbyshire.
Any help greatly appreciated.
All the best.
Derek ;)
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Re: Lead miner Middleton in Teesdale.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 May 15 19:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,
 According to the BT's Isaac senior was a native of Middleton (bapt Ist son Isaac 1802). He may be either

Allinson, Isaac, bapt 24 Feb 1777, child of William and Sarah of Stony Coum, Harwood or
Allinson, Isaac, bapt 9 Jan 1778, child of Thomas and Ann of Forrest

Igi coverage for Romaldkirk bapts only goes up to 1772, but there is no Isaac Allison or variant before then. Perhaps go with  Isaac son of Thomas, as I see that name occurs in Isaac & Alice's children.

Of course there may still be a connection but ALLINSON's are quite numerous in the area!
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Endesfelder & others from Czechia

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Re: Lead miner Middleton in Teesdale.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 May 15 20:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks fiddlerslass ;)

with all these Rowbotham & variations of spelling i'm just getting a bit confused,
i will have to have a think on this one ???
Big thank you ;)

Derek
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Re: Lead miner Middleton in Teesdale.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 17 May 15 09:24 BST (UK) »
Hi,

when the London Lead Company first came to Teesdale 13 Derbyshire lead miners and thier families
came and worked in Newbiggin, i wonder if a list of names would exist of these folks,
Durham Records Office have told me if they have a list it would take a researcher to look it up,
a arm and a leg come to mind going down that route, has any one any idea where names of these first lead miners might be held if!! they exist at all, i'm trying to establish a James Rowbotham was amongst those first lead miners.
Any help would be greatly appreciated..
Derek ;)
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