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« Reply #63 on: Monday 02 July 12 10:38 BST (UK) »

tkgafs,

I don't whether there is evidence they were born in Ecclefechan. Found the paper I had written on, saying William was born at Close Head, Annan. Can't think where I got this from. The only other thing I know about William Moffat, he was a Blacksmith in Annan and, on his son James's death entry proves this.

As I said, I have not found William and Christian's burial place- there are no death records for Annan before 1855. Also tried the layers department but, there records don't start till 1872.

The OPR's on Micro-fische in the library, gives the same information as Scotlands People in Edinburgh.

So, perhaps we will not know for sure about the Ecclefechan connection.

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« Reply #64 on: Monday 02 July 12 10:48 BST (UK) »

Hi WiggyHobbes,

First of all, my geography isn't too good. Perhaps another Rootschatter will correct me with this.

I believe Applegarth and Dryfesdale are nearer Lockerbie than Annan. I only have the early censuses for Annan. However, I shall have a look at the Applegarth and Dryfesdale census's for you, the next time I am at the library.

Did find this one in Annan, but perhaps no connection.

S BRYDEKIRK  1811 Census

Robert Brown,spouse, 2 drs. maid

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« Reply #65 on: Monday 02 July 12 10:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks  Cupcake -  but our Robert Brown was married to Janet Eskdale/Easdale in Dalry, Ayrshire in 1814.    but we think he was born to Thomas and Jean and baptised in Applegarth and Sibaldie,    21 Sept 1790.    :)

Thanks for looking and for the offer of a library look! 
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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« Reply #66 on: Monday 02 July 12 11:18 BST (UK) »

Hi Wiggy,

Just realised the majority of census's didn't start till 1841.

However, the birth/marriages OPR's on microfiche at the library, may give us some information.

Thanks for the additional information.

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« Reply #67 on: Monday 02 July 12 11:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks ever so!!   :)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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« Reply #68 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 19:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Wiggy,

Just to let you know - Dryfesdale is in Lockerbie and Applegarth is a Parish on it's own, above Dryfesdale.

Knowing where your families were between 1790 -1830, could be a tad difficult. The Census's didn't start till 1841. It does appear Annan is the only one with earlier census's.

This is the information I got from the library, today.

Birth OPR's on mocrofishe:

BROWN Robert -  Thomas Brown/ Jean Johnston  ch. 21 Sept. 1790 - Applegarth
BROWN Agnes  -  Thomas Brown/ Jean Johnston  ch. 15 Jan    1793 - Applegarth
BROWN Sibella -  Thomas Brown/ Jean Johnston  ch.  23 Jun   1795 - Applegarth
BROWN Mary    -  Thomas Brown/ Jean Johnston  ch.  01 Sept  1803 - Applegarth

[note the above Johnston spelt without an 'e']

Marriage

Robert BROWN married Janet Easdale - 30 April 1814 - Dalry, Ayrshire  [ note Easdale]

It is very possible Robert and Janet lived in Ayrshire after they married.

No luck with David and Mary Johnstone with son George or John. If you have any other info on them, I'll look again.

Hope tis helps.

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« Reply #69 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 23:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much - all grist to the mill - confirms what I'd thought about that mob!

Entertaining grandchildren so will put more info re Johnstones later

Wiggy     :)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 04 July 12 04:57 BST (UK) »

Hello again,

Have you ever been to the UK and visited Annan. The reason I ask this, if you haven't, I could go to the churchyard and see if there are headstones and, take some photographs for you.

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Hi,

Thank you for your kind offer.

 I would like a picture of the Headstone of Mary Bell and John Lindsay who are buried in the Annan Church yard if that is possible and if it exists still and is readable.

No hurry but if you are out and enjoying some love ly weather that would be nisce.

Thank You

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« Reply #71 on: Friday 06 July 12 12:37 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Have been to the church and cemetery. I have visited many cemeteries during my researches but, this was my time to the Annan one. Was a pleasant experience. The churchyard isn't too big and the majority of the headstones are still legible. If there is a church, I always go inside to have a look. I liked this one.


If you could PM with your e-mail, I will send them to you. Or if you prefer, I'll just put them on here.

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