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The notice in the newspaper says:

At her mother's house, Glenworth St, by the Right Rev Dr Ryan, and immediately after at the Cathedral, by the Rev Henry Gubbins, William Leake, Esq., to Anna Maria, daughter of the late Michael Ryan, Esq., of Limerick.

Am I correct in thinking they were married by a Catholic priest at the bride's home and then had a Church of Ireland ceremony at the Cathedral?

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Re: Ryan / Leake marriage, Limerick, 1839. One Protestant and the other RC?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 May 15 03:38 BST (UK) »
And off-topic a bit:
A notice in the Dublin Evening Register, 3 April 1832. 

George Rd (Richard?) Leake Esq., Plantiff.
William Fitzgerald, executor of George Leake, Esq., deceased,
William Purcell, Godfrey Massey, Richard Scott, George D'Alton Leake, Richard Leake and William Leake.  Defendants.

What is meant by defendants?  Are they beneficiaries or trustees?  I am trying to work out the relationships between them.

George Leake was from Rathkeale.  I think he died in late 1831.


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Re: Ryan / Leake marriage, Limerick, 1839. One Protestant and the other RC?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 May 15 04:16 BST (UK) »
And another question.

I think Edmund Fitzgerald Ryan could the brother of Anna Maria Ryan (as I read on a website that Edmond Fitzgerald Ryan & Michael Robert Ryan were William Leake's brother-in-laws). 

His funeral notice
http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/ryan%20edmond%20.pdf
says late R.M.

What does R.M. mean please?  Many thanks.

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Re: Ryan / Leake marriage, Limerick, 1839. One Protestant and the other RC?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 May 15 05:24 BST (UK) »
I'm no expert but the way I read them is:-

RM is a Resident Magistrate.

Defendants are people a legal case is taken against.
It looks like George Leake is taking a case against those listed.
They probably owe his estate money or some such which William Fitzgerald as executor of the will must deal with.

Rev Gubbins was COI http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/limerick%20families%20112.pdf
And Ryan was RC http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/directories/bassett1875/killaloe_worship.htm
So I'd say yes, they married in the house than The Cathedral.


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Re: Ryan / Leake marriage, Limerick, 1839. One Protestant and the other RC?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 May 15 08:58 BST (UK) »
enter Leake into Search Archives here
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/

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Re: Ryan / Leake marriage, Limerick, 1839. One Protestant and the other RC?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 May 15 09:32 BST (UK) »
This appears to be from the Cork Examiner

"William Leake( ? - 1850), Solicitor. Lived at Glentworth Street, Limerick. Wife Anna Maud. Daughter Maria Alice (c1840 - ?). Brother-in-laws Edmond Fitzgerald Ryan & Michael Robert Ryan. Robert Ferguson, Barrister, guardian of Maria Alice Leake in 1850.

7th July 1853, Incumbered Estate of Anna Maria Leake & Maria Alice Leake, an infant:
Lands at Rathkeale Abbey, Knockanavad and Garryduff (Lot 3) c1201 Acres. Lot 3 consisted of 1,083 acres of fruitful loam resting on clay slate. 35 Acres under plantation of Oak, Ash and Fir of c30 years growth. £700 spent on draining and fencing. Very handsome cottage with out-offices suitable for the residence of a gentleman. Mr. Ferguson was the buyer (in trust) at £3,010"

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~colin/FergusonsOfIreland/Limerick.htm

Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Ryan / Leake marriage, Limerick, 1839. One Protestant and the other RC?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 May 15 09:50 BST (UK) »
This is interesting

"18TH CENTURY Portrait of George D'Alton Leake of Rathkeale Abbey, Elder Son of George Leake and of Alice D'Alton"
http://www.jamesadam.ie/39703/IRISH-SCHOOL-18TH-CENTURY-Portrait-of-George-D-Alton-Leake-of-Rathkeale-Abbey-Elder-Son-of-George-Leake-and-of-Alice-D-Alton-Furnell-Oil-on-canvas75-x-62cms-39703

and
"Rathkeale Abbey
Description:   The residence of J. Hewson in 1837 and previously of the representatives of George Lake [Leake] esq. By the time of Griffith's Valuation the Abbey was in the possession of Daniel Griffin who held it from the representatives of William Lake [Leake]. It was valued at £30. Referred to in 1942 as "a substanial well kept mansion" the property of Major Waller"

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/property-show.jsp?id=2305


Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Ryan / Leake marriage, Limerick, 1839. One Protestant and the other RC?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 May 15 10:07 BST (UK) »
"W.F.Leake:
* This gentleman, I am informed, filled the office of lieutenant-colonel of the county Limerick regiment
for some'time; he was father of George Leake, Esq., who built the house at Rathkeale abbey, where the family had its residence for a very long period of time, and was grandfather of George D'Alton Leake, Esq , for several years master of the county Limerick fox hounds, and remarkable as a keen sportsman. At D’Al’ton Leake’s funeral the members of the county hunt all attended in hunting costume; and at the express desire of the deceased, the huntsman and honnds followed his remains to the family vault in Rathkeale churchyard. D’Alton Leake was the brother of the late William Leake, Esq., who filled the office of county sub-sheriff with popularity and respect. George D’Alton Leake died unmarried; his brother William married Anna Maria, sistei ot E. F. G. Ryan, Esq., R.M., Midleton, and M. R. Ryan, Esq., J.P., Templemungret, leaving one child, Maria Alice, the last survivor in the direct line of the Leake family."

http://www.mocavo.com/Limerick-Its-History-and-Antiquities/255946/798






Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Ryan / Leake marriage, Limerick, 1839. One Protestant and the other RC?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 May 15 10:11 BST (UK) »
enter Leake into Search Archives here
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/

Unfortunately (and surprisingly) that didn't result in any hits.  But I wasn't aware of that website and I  will try it in future.  Many thanks.