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Re: Burkes of Arklow...photo help please
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 16 May 15 09:53 BST (UK) »
No I was thinking British Army
http://www.ecsnaith.com/irish-guards-gilt-button-30-ligne.html
But I see what you mean.

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Re: Burkes of Arklow...photo help please
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 16 May 15 10:04 BST (UK) »
On second thoughts he doesn't have the badge at the neck of the Irish Guards which I would expect in a formal setting such as a photograph
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=570406.msg4226758#msg4226758

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Re: Burkes of Arklow...photo help please
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 16 May 15 10:07 BST (UK) »
The photo of the two men together are wearing Free State uniforms, as you can see they have that extra belt part That goes over the shoulder.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=713423.msg5578608#msg5578608

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Re: Burkes of Arklow...photo help please
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 16 May 15 11:25 BST (UK) »
I suppose when the Free State took over they would have to source uniforms perhaps the uniforms for privates were of a standard pattern that the Army suppliers made just requiring change of buttons and colour.
James Burkes ,Thomas Sergeant's and your relations tunics look identical.


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Re: Burkes of Arklow...photo help please
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 16 May 15 11:44 BST (UK) »
I suppose when the Free State took over they would have to source uniforms perhaps the uniforms for privates were of a standard pattern that the Army suppliers made just requiring change of buttons and colour.
James Burkes ,Thomas Sergeant's and your relations tunics look identical.

That's the problem all the tunics look the same even down to extra bit near the shoulder, which is why I think a good look at the buttons is the only hope of telling them apart.

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Re: Burkes of Arklow...photo help please
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 17 May 15 09:38 BST (UK) »
Wow there is so much! Thank you guys for your help! I can't wait to have a look at all this info during the week! It's so fascinating.
I'm still trying to find out as much info on him as I can but it's proving difficult! I don't know when he got married so don't have a marriage cert....but I will reply with any more info I can find over the next few days!
Thanks again guys...really appreciate your help 😊

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Re: Burkes of Arklow...photo help please
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 17 May 15 11:03 BST (UK) »
I don't know when he got married so don't have a marriage cert.

 5 June 1923 would be my guess  ...........and dathai's
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/894ebf6261498

and let that be a lesson to both of us to read everything before posting not after 😄

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Re: Burkes of Arklow...photo help please
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 17 May 15 14:49 BST (UK) »
Harps on buttons
Mr Burke's
Free State
Garda button very different

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Re: Burkes of Arklow...photo help please
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 19 May 15 07:24 BST (UK) »
Yes 5th June 1923 is when they married! So I have just ordered a marriage cert so it will be a few weeks before I get it and hopefully that will tell me more info! I am currently living in Australia so could be 4 weeks before I get it....but will be moving back to Ireland in July so hopefully I will be able to get hold of the original photo too!