Syner family in Westminster; migration between London and Birmingham pre-1800

[gtsinar]

Was migration of ordinary working men and women common between the capital and other industrial cities like Birmingham and Manchester, before the 19th century?
 Were there established London / Westminster Syner families before the 1780s?
Joseph Syner son of Benjamin and Isabel, christened 1755 in Westminster: I am in search of more information to link him with the Joseph Syner married in Westminster to Elizabeth Trott in 1783. 
I also wish to identify him with (or eliminate from) the Joseph Syner who moved to Birmingham, Warwickshire (Rate levy books) about 1786, married to Elizabeth ??  (Birmingham, 1786-1838) who was the father of Thomas Siner, born Birmingham, died Fazeley, Staffordshire.
(There was another Joseph Sinar christened 1759 in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, son of James and Mary, but no records appear to exist for 1750s Joseph Syner baptisms in the Midland Counties.)

[jacquelineve]

  Did any of these Syners share the same occupation?

Jackie

[spendlove]

Hi,

According to original Parish Register on Ancestry the christening was:-

20th July, 1755.  Parish of St. Mary Whitechapel, Borough of Tower Hamlets, Middlesex.

Joseph Syner son of Benjamin & Isabel.   Abode  =  Road Side.

Cannot find a marriage, can you give date of marriage and confirm Parish.

Again on Ancestry London Wills & Probate the following:-

Joseph Siner Probate 7.6.1776   Will Date 5.1.1775 signs X
I Joseph Siner, outbound in the good ship Nottingham  etc.,  leaves
to my beloved father Benjamin Siner of    ? oakhill, Ratcliffe Highway.

Spendlove

[gtsinar]

Hi
I had not come across the Probate record. If this was Joseph's proven will in 1776 I presume he'd died and therefore couldn't be the same Joseph who married Elizabeth Trott in 1783; unless the will was provisional when he put to sea?
I do not have any earlier occupation records for Joseph before his arrival in Birmingham in 1786' but several other Siners did have connections with boats, on the River Severn, and later canal boat men and boat builders.
A Thomas Sinar from Birmingham also ended his days as a pensioner in Greenwich.
Thanks for your info
Glyn

[gtsinar]

The date of the marriage of Joseph Syner and Elizabeth Trott is 8th October 1783, parish is St John the Evangelist, Smith Square. I think the witnesses were the Church wardens, which suggests the couple may have been 'passing through' and had no relatives present?

Glyn Sinar