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Remarriage in 1663 - indecent haste?
« on: Tuesday 19 May 15 20:58 BST (UK) »
I am trying to progress my family history in 1663 - very slowly!

Is it likely that a yeoman (aged 52) whose wife was buried in July 1663 would remarry two months later?  I don't think he had any children with his first wife but he quickly remedied this with his new young wife.  Would this have been considered fairly normal at that time or would it have been most unlikely and indecent haste?  I'm just trying to establish if it's the same man.

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Re: Remarriage in 1663 - indecent haste?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 May 15 22:00 BST (UK) »
Fairly normal, especially when there were children to look after, no welfare at that time only the workhouse. Was she a widow by any chance/
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Re: Remarriage in 1663 - indecent haste?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 07:15 BST (UK) »
As far as I know, there were no children other than those resulting from the second marriage.  The only marriage record that I have seen (which was from the second marriage) does not refer to marital status so I don't know for sure whether there were previous marriages.  It just seems to be the same man whose wife died in July and who remarried in September.  The second? wife was 24yrs at the time of the marriage (he was 52yrs).  Was this old for a woman to be married for the first time?  If so, perhaps she was a widow - I hadn't thought of that.  They did start having children quickly and had 7 in total so, if she had been married previously, it would have been probable that there were children from the previous marriage unless they had been unable to have any.

Any other thoughts would be most welcome.  Thanks.

Pyper
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Re: Remarriage in 1663 - indecent haste?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 07:54 BST (UK) »
I dont think its very surprising either.

Was there any relation between wife 1 and wife 2.... Perhaps they were cousins (which I found in my family) or wife 2 was living on a farm and needed a husband.

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Re: Remarriage in 1663 - indecent haste?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 08:58 BST (UK) »
I believe it happened quite frequently.
Especially, as Redroger says, with no welfare etc.

I recall publishing in our FH journal some years ago, a report from some parish register where a newly-wed couple had to move the first wife's body from the bed before they could lie down  :o   :o   :o 

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Re: Remarriage in 1663 - indecent haste?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 09:07 BST (UK) »
Yeoman - a farmer who owns his own land rather than a tenant farmer.

He had no children of his own, what a bargain for any woman that could snare him, she would never go hungry and the oldest would inherit land
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Re: Remarriage in 1663 - indecent haste?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 09:28 BST (UK) »
How many story lines could we conjecture from these few facts posted by Pyper. The problem is, without proof it is all conjecture.
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Re: Remarriage in 1663 - indecent haste?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 11:35 BST (UK) »
Thank you all very much for your input.  I don't think I'll ever forget the example given by Dawn.  It makes two moths seem quite a long time really!

Pyper
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Re: Remarriage in 1663 - indecent haste?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 May 15 15:12 BST (UK) »
- And how fortunate you are if you're managing to get a line back to 1660s! Three of mine seem to vanish before 1870! And one other becomes a bit conjectural prior to 1700. Well done. Your ancestor was evidently determined to provide descendants who would look back at his feats with awe!
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