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Determining Townland
« on: Thursday 21 May 15 17:08 BST (UK) »
Help!  Have reached a road block in my Irish genealogy. Gr gr grandfather was James Brown. Have some good information on him already but can't go very far in Ireland without some basic information. Don't know his exact year of birth. Census records for US and Canada say 1842/1843, death record says 1847 military record says 1839. With such a common name I am asked to give some other bits of information that I do not have and don't know how to find. Here's what I have. James Brown b. in the parish of St Marys, in the town of Kilkenny, in the county of Kilkenny, on March 18, ____. Parents were William Brown and Catherina Ledwell. Would like to know about siblings and about his parents families. Am sometimes asked to provide name of Townland. Researched Townlands and am asked about civil parish and barony. How do I find this information? Read an enlightening article on the Irish Genealogy Toolkit but am still stuck. Please help.

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Re: Determining Townland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 May 15 17:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Patrick,

I would suggest posting this on the Kilkenny board as you may find people who actually know the area first hand.

My first assumption (and maybe I am wrong) is that as this is a church located in a city, maybe they lived IN the city.


Keane (Westmeath)
Ledwith (Longford/Westmeath)
Gray (Sligo)
Eustace (Louth)
Frost (Suffolk)
Farrar (Yorkshire)
La Favor/Lefebvre (Quebec)
Mineard/Maynard/Mainard/ Maynord (Wiltshire/Monmouthshire)

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 May 15 17:29 BST (UK) »
I did check the 1901 census and there arent any Ledwell's in Kilkenny and only 26 or so people with the Brown surname.
Keane (Westmeath)
Ledwith (Longford/Westmeath)
Gray (Sligo)
Eustace (Louth)
Frost (Suffolk)
Farrar (Yorkshire)
La Favor/Lefebvre (Quebec)
Mineard/Maynard/Mainard/ Maynord (Wiltshire/Monmouthshire)

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Re: Determining Townland
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 May 15 17:36 BST (UK) »
"RootsIreland" has the parent's church marriage and baptisms for 4 children, records of this era can have scant information, but should you wish to view, the website is subscription based.


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Re: Determining Townland
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 May 15 17:58 BST (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=721213.new#new

Link to Kilkenny board


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This link about history of St Marys Parish, Kilkenny
http://stmaryscathedral.ie/parish-history/

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 May 15 18:15 BST (UK) »
"RootsIreland" has the parent's church marriage and baptisms for 4 children, records of this era can have scant information, but should you wish to view, the website is subscription based.
  In your opinion, would I find more information at RootsIreland or Find My Past? Have considered both for some time. Do have a subscription with Ancestry but hit a road block.

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 May 15 18:31 BST (UK) »
"RootsIreland" has the parent's church marriage and baptisms for 4 children, records of this era can have scant information, but should you wish to view, the website is subscription based.
  In your opinion, would I find more information at RootsIreland or Find My Past? Have considered both for some time. Do have a subscription with Ancestry but hit a road block.

In this specific instance, my opinion would be "RootsIreland", the truth is that there isn't a silver bullet for online Irish research, so I'm wary to recommend anything that costs. I'm sending you a pm to give you a steer.