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Re: Kelly Family from Granard
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 April 20 15:06 BST (UK) »
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Re: Kelly Family from Granard
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 16 April 20 10:30 BST (UK) »
sorry that was a typo , it obviously was Owen Kelly's 1827-1887 Son 1871-1954.....

1 Owen Kelly senior  Married Catherine Fox
 2 Owen Kelly 1827-1887 (junior)  Married  Rose Horan 1837-1903 at Tubber Rosemount in 1863.
 3Daniel Joseph Kelly 1864-1941 Married Ada Henderson 1871-1936
 4Agnes Maud (Tootsie) Kelly 1897-1976 Married Daniel William Bailey 1890-1955
 5Kathleen Maud Bailey 1926-2019 Married Jan Michael Kis 1927-1998

5. That was my Mum. 4. That was my Grandmother. 3. That was my Great Great Granddad, 2. My Great Great Great Granddad. 1. My Great Great Great Great Granddad.

 So I got something wrong but I was drinking Guinness at the time ....


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Re: Kelly Family from Granard
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 16 April 20 11:01 BST (UK) »
Kelly, Owen (1827-1887) and Rose Horan (1837-1903)
Owen Kelly (1827-1887) and Rose Horan (1837-1903)

Owen Kelly (1827-1887)
Son of Owen Kelly and Catherine Fox. Owen Snr. was a private in the 89th British Army Regiment. It was an Irish regiment formed on the 3rd December 1793 to fight in the Napoleonic wars.
Born In Trichinopoly, Madras on 16 October 1829
The Great Famine in Ireland began in 1845.
Owen Jnr. was a carpenter. Joined the army the 1st Battalion the 2nd Foot,  The Queen’s Royal Regiment in Moate, Westmeath, Ireland in December 1846 aged 19.
He was stationed in Ireland and England for 14 years.
He sailed from Birkenhead  to South Africa and fought in the 8th Kaffir War in 1851, stationed there for 10 years.
He sailed to China and served in the China War, 1860.
Returned to England and was stationed at Aldershot, 1861.
Took leave and went to Ireland, 1862.
Married Rose Horan (1837-1903) in Moate, Westmeath on 7 January 1863.  Rose Horan (1837-1903). Born in Moate, Ireland on 2 April 1837 the daughter of Daniel Horan and Bridget Murray. Rose was the youngest of three children: Michael Horan (3.5.1830), Bridget Horan (18.5.1832) and Rose Roran(2.4.1837)
The Regiment sailed for India in 1866, but was stationed in Aden from 1866-1868. From 1868-1878 the Regiment was stationed in India.
Owen transferred to the 2nd Battalion the Somerset Light Infantry and returned with them to England in 1878
Owen retired from the army aged 55 in 1882
Owen sailed to Australia in 1883.
Owen and Rose had 7 children
Owen Kelly died in New South Wales on 15 March 1887
Rose Horan died in St Vincent’s Hospital, Sydney, New South Wales, on 20 June 1903)

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1.Daniel Joseph Kelly (1864-1941) born in Devonport
Married Ada Henderson (1871-1936) in 1894.
Daniel and Ada had 6 children
Daniel died of encephalitis in 1901 together with two of their children (see below) (encephalitis is an acute inflammation of the brain caused by a bacterial infection) (i) Ada (Birdie) Kelly (1889-1985) Married Thomas Merrick (Brevet Colonel Nov 1918). (ii) Rose Kelly (1892-1948) Married Thomas Tubbs (Captain in the ‘Green Howards’). (iii) Charles Edward Kelly (1893-1961), born in Rangoon 30 May 1893, Died in Perth, Sydney, Australia 26 January, 1961. Married Kathleen Eileen O’Kelly (1897-1984) Had four children Barbara Kelly (1925-1998), Lionel Desmond Kelly (b.1937), Noel Raymond Patrick Kelly (b.1931), Yvonne Kelly (b.1938) and Averil Kelly (b.1942). (iv) Agnes Maude (Tootsie) Kelly (1897-1976). Born 22 July 1897, married Daniel Percival William Bailey. They had five children. (v) Millicent Jessie Kelly (1901-1901), born on 26 June 1901. Died of encephalitis in July 1901. (vi) Daniel Kelly (1901-1901). Died of encephalitis in August 1901

2.Edward Eugene Kelly (1865-1945)  was born in Carlisle Fort, Youghal, County Cork, Ireland on 31 July 1865, where his father’s Regiment was stationed. Edward married in London, Harriet Clara Cooper (1873-1955) on 26 December 1892.  They had 7 children. Edward Eugene Kelly (1894-1986), Leonard Hillier Kelly (1895-1908) Percival Harvey Kelly (1897-1950), Eileen Clara Kelly (1901-1994), Laurence Cyril Kelly (1903-1980), Lionel Roy Kelly (1910-1985) Bernard Eric Kelly (1916-2003). He died on 5 August 1945 having lived in New South Wales, Australia for 25 years.


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Re: Kelly Family from Granard
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 16 April 20 11:10 BST (UK) »
3.Rosanna Kelly (1870-1931). Was born in Chatham, Kent in 1870. She married Albert Edward Lee (b.1859) in Madras on 10 November 1883. Rosanna  married about a month before Owen and family left for Australia.  She gave her age as 16 to make the marriage legal, (she was 14). Albert Edward Lee was 24 and was in the British Army 7th Regiment. The regiment returned to England in 1889.  . Rosanna and Albert had four children: Albert Edward Lee (b.1886) Rosabella Lee (1889-1935), Alice Maud Lee (b.1891) and William Owen Lee (b.1897). Rodanna died in 1931

3. Michael Joseph Kelly (1871-1954) was born in Devenport. Described on death certificate as being a Wharf Labourer, living at Torwood Road, Warrimoo, New South Wales, Australia. He married Ethel Hannah Jobson (1876-1960) in St Michael’s Church, Sydney on 15 August 1893. Michael and Ethel  had 8 children. Alfred Gordon Kelly (1894-1951), George Kelly (1897-1917) Florence May Jean Kelly (b.1899-1992), Rose Evelyn Kelly (b.1902-1981), Sidney Owen Kelly (1905-1971), Herbert E. Kelly (b.1906), Leslie Owen Kelly (b.1908), Dulcie Ethel Kelly (b.1910), Two sons died as children.

4. John Kelly (1871-1954)
Born in Bellary, India on 12 December 1873. Married Elizabeth Caroline Fry (1870-1958) in St Peter’s Presbyterian Church, Surrey Hills. John died In Concord West, New South Wales 24 June 1950. John and Elizabeth had three children: Frederick John Kelly (1897-1998), James Edward Kelly (1898-1959) and Alfred Michael Kelly (1900-1956)

5. Mary Catherine Kelly (1877-1967) Born in Poona, India on 28 May 1877. Married George Beard Rich (1875-1933) in St Peter’s RC Church, Surrey Hills, New South Wales on 15 February 1897. George was born in Sydney, New South Wales on 9 September 1875. He was a hairdresser. George died in Canterbury, New South Wales on 27 July 1933. Mary died in Strathfield, New South Wales on 5 March 1967. Mary and George had 6 children. Ernest Alfred Rich (1898-1898), Irene Hilda Rich (1901-1963), Mabel Beatrice Rich (1902-1981), Edward George Rich (1903-1974), Eric Charles Owen Rich (1905-1969) and Marjorie Rosanna Rich (1913-2003)

6. James Gorman Kelly (1878-1980). Born in Bellary, India on 19 November 1878. Christened in Bellary on 8 December 1878. Buried in Bellary on 24 July 1880.

So Owen Kelly Juniors 1827-1887 son Edward Kelly 1865-1945 was the only child of the seven children born in Ireland in Carlisle Fort Youghal Cork in 1865. There is no record of the others as they were born overseas..

What I am trying to find information for is Owen Kelly Senior who was Owen Snr. was a private in the 89th British Army Regiment. It was an Irish regiment formed on the 3rd December 1793 to fight in the Napoleonic wars.

 


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Re: Kelly Family from Granard
« Reply #13 on: Monday 26 December 22 08:16 GMT (UK) »
PALM SPRINGS

Hi everyone, Palm Springs, there WILL be records of the children born overseas, I found them for another Kelly family.  In Family Search, I think Find My Past too, you can search the area born as Britain - other - so it covers the births in countries where Irish and English were living when they were in service in the armed forces. 

Also check out Clan Kelly on Facebook, you could find some great help just for Kellys.  Its a great group.
IRELAND....
KELLY... plus Hamilton, McCormack, Dwyer, Condon, Flynn, Mahon, Keane, Quinn, Fox, Farrell, Lynch,  Moore, Hartigan, Martin....  Dwyer, Condon, Walsh, Curtin, Ryan.....
COUNTIES - Longford, Westmeath, Roscommon, Clare, Kerry, Limerick, Tipperary and Cork... and probably more

ENGLAND
Johnson, Berryman, Garland, Caudwell, Sloss, Timsbury , Boddy, Dwyer, Kelly, Condon....

Convicts to Australia
Settlers and pioneers to Australia
Military History

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Re: Kelly Family from Granard
« Reply #14 on: Monday 26 December 22 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi EVERYONE

I am really interested in THIS specific Kelly family and its ties to the FOX family.

My gg grandfather is John Kelly, married Anna Fox c1857 in Longford.

John was born to Michael and Catherine Kelly in Longford, but baptised just over the border in Westmeath.  I am having trouble finding much on the family, even the Fox family. 

I read there was a Catherine Fox?  Would love to know if she is related to my Anna and her parents.  I believe Anna's father was William and mother Ann/Marie nee Cormick.  There IS Flynn written in the family bible, but the recording was done in the late 1800s and its just a name but doesn't show exactly how it connects.  It is tied to the Fox family because it is written with Anna's parents names.

My Michael Kelly was apparently born in Ardagh Longford.  John - his son, the obituary said John was a Longford man, so clearly that would have come from John's own words.  He fought in the 41st Welch Regiment of Foot in the Crimea War, was pensioned in December 1856 and in Australia in January 1862 - pensioned soldiers were offered land, a job, pension etc.  THey only had to watch one ship of convicts on the trip to Australia, but were with other pensioner guards and families. 

Hope I can finally find a lead on the family - my brick wall is breaking me.

Thanks, Katherine
IRELAND....
KELLY... plus Hamilton, McCormack, Dwyer, Condon, Flynn, Mahon, Keane, Quinn, Fox, Farrell, Lynch,  Moore, Hartigan, Martin....  Dwyer, Condon, Walsh, Curtin, Ryan.....
COUNTIES - Longford, Westmeath, Roscommon, Clare, Kerry, Limerick, Tipperary and Cork... and probably more

ENGLAND
Johnson, Berryman, Garland, Caudwell, Sloss, Timsbury , Boddy, Dwyer, Kelly, Condon....

Convicts to Australia
Settlers and pioneers to Australia
Military History

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Re: Kelly Family from Granard
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 28 January 23 09:35 GMT (UK) »
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My great grandparents were Sarah Regan Kelly and James Kelly.

Marriage 31 January 1907 at Longford RC Church. Both living in Longford town.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10083/5667527.pdf

Births of the first two children-

Christina Mary 1907
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01675/1666519.pdf

Catherine 1909
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01600/1643018.pdf

1911 census
House 2 in Sandy Row (Longford No. 1 Urban, Longford)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Longford/Longford_No__1_Urban/Sandy_Row/651583/



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Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Kelly Family from Granard
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 29 January 23 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo