Author Topic: Any way to choose between 3 possible deaths for Elizabeth Jackson nee Hall?  (Read 2205 times)

Offline BevStimpson

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Hi,
I've located 3 possible deaths for my Gt Gt Gt grandma Elizabeth Jackson nee Hall.
All three are in the same area, 2 in the same cemetery, all roughly the same age (73 or 74 years) at death. All in 1896, which is when I have calculated her death (the only year with deaths of the right age range)
Without buying certificates for all 3, is there any way to determine a more likely match for my Elizabeth? (I'm already in trouble with my hubby over my hobby  ;D ;D ;D )

How would you deal with sorting out the 3 deaths?
Many thanks

Bev
BARLOW, BEARD, BRIDGWOOD. BROOMHEAD. BROTHERDALE, CLARKE, CRESSWELL. DIAMOND, DRAIN, GRAHAM, HALL, HEUCHAN, HOGDANE, HULL, JACKSON, KIRKPATRICK, LITTLE, McLELLAN, McTURK, MORRIS, NEEDS, OWEN, PARSONS, PRICE, PUGH, RATHBONE, ROBINSON, SCRUTON, SHAW, STAFFORD, TAYLOR, WATSON, WEIR, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Any way to choose between 3 possible deaths?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 June 15 17:06 BST (UK) »
I'd be interested to know if a grave existed -and if I could find photos of the graves.  How far away is the graveyard containing two burials?  I'd get in touch with the church to see if they have more information - e.g. they might be able to give you the addresses of the deceased, I've got a list of burials from one church that shows name, age and actual address.  It's all about how interested/motivated the church staff are in this stuff .... but the dead don't put coins in the collection so tend to get overlooked.

If you're lucky there'll be a list that you can get by email from the church.  If you're lucky there'll be photos of the graves available ...and if you're lucky then a visit to the graveyard to check for yourself what words are on the stone might yield the result you're seeking.... depending on transport costs.

I might try to contact the local/village history society to see if anybody's prepared to pop down and take a photo of any graves.

After that it's down to putting your hand in your pocket unfortunately :)
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Re: Any way to choose between 3 possible deaths?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 June 15 17:14 BST (UK) »
Bev,

One way that might help - phone the cemetery and ask if they can tell you who opened the grave, and see if you can identify that person as being a relative.

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Offline Mike in Cumbria

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Re: Any way to choose between 3 possible deaths?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 June 15 17:28 BST (UK) »
Where is the cemetery?


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Re: Any way to choose between 3 possible deaths?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 June 15 06:31 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately, both graves are municipal graves all the records are to be found on manchester council, and all appear to be pauper graves!
I linked the 3 ladies in the graves with the registration on bmd, and I have visit the main cemetery, unfortunately all the pauper graves in the section have been reduced to landscape - makes it easier to drive a lawnmower over I suppose, even if it does make me at least cry. At today's count 6 of my direct gt (and gt times 2 and 3) grandparents from both sides of my tree are in that section of that cemetery.

Thank you all for responding. It looks like buying all three is an option. I haven't managed to find any children for her and her husband other than my gt gt granddad, and he had already pre-deceased her, so not sure who would have buried her even
Bev
BARLOW, BEARD, BRIDGWOOD. BROOMHEAD. BROTHERDALE, CLARKE, CRESSWELL. DIAMOND, DRAIN, GRAHAM, HALL, HEUCHAN, HOGDANE, HULL, JACKSON, KIRKPATRICK, LITTLE, McLELLAN, McTURK, MORRIS, NEEDS, OWEN, PARSONS, PRICE, PUGH, RATHBONE, ROBINSON, SCRUTON, SHAW, STAFFORD, TAYLOR, WATSON, WEIR, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Any way to choose between 3 possible deaths?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 June 15 08:08 BST (UK) »
Don't buy all three at once though. You might strike lucky with your first purchase. If not, you've reduced the odds to 50/50

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Re: Any way to choose between 3 possible deaths?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 05 June 15 08:15 BST (UK) »
Have you checked the 1891 - to see who she was living with etc and to see if there is a possible middle name?

I am not sure but I think if you 'ask'  the GRO they may check details to match what you have found - so a previous address - may help.

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Re: Any way to choose between 3 possible deaths?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 05 June 15 08:22 BST (UK) »
Have you checked the 1891 - to see who she was living with etc and to see if there is a possible middle name?

Yes, in 1891 her husband was still with her, they were boarders in a room, which according to the report of the inquest into his death in 1893 wasn't fit for habitation. She didn't have a middle name unfortunately.
One of my problems is lack of children, not many people those days only had one child, if I could find others it might lead me to the right death/burial

Don't buy all three at once though. You might strike lucky with your first purchase. If not, you've reduced the odds to 50/50
Very good idea Mike, and it'll keep me out of trouble with hubby lol
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Re: Any way to choose between 3 possible deaths?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 05 June 15 09:03 BST (UK) »
ok - so I can see why she would be in a 'paupers' grave... Maybe then she was also in the Workhouse when she died?   Her husband having pre-deceased - wont be on the death cert as 'present at death' so that wont help with the info you can give GRO -
To see if there are more children - have you worked the census through (of course you will sorry)
The other way to check for more children is to do a SURNAME only search and then give parents name's' with an approximate date...... :)
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