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Robert PYPER of Fettercairn
« on: Saturday 09 July 05 11:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks,
I am researching Pyper family of Fettercairn.
Robert Pyper married Elizabeth WATT 22.05.1826 Fettercairn
They had 9 children some of whom went to USA, some to OZ.
I have information re. the children but would like ANY census information prior to 1881 or information prior to their marriage PLEASE.
Many thanks
Di

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Re: Robert PYPER of Fettercairn
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 July 05 11:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks,
I am researching Pyper family of Fettercairn.
Robert Pyper married Elizabeth WATT 22.05.1826 Fettercairn
They had 9 children some of whom went to USA, some to OZ.
I have information re. the children but would like ANY census information prior to 1881 or information prior to their marriage PLEASE.
Many thanks
Di


this is the only one listed on BVRI



PIPER, William   Christening
   Gender:   Male
   Christening Date:   15 May 1819   Recorded in:   Drumlithe and Laurencekirk, Kincardineshire, Scotland
   Father:   James PIPER
   Mother:   Isabel GAVIN

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Re: Robert PYPER of Fettercairn
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 July 05 11:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks Audrey,
Unfortunately not mine. I have looked through the IGI and can't seem to pin him down. Thought the census may show his age - we can only hope. Family said he was second coisin to Robert Burns (yeah, aren't they all!!)
Thanks anyway
Regards
Di
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Re: Robert PYPER of Fettercairn
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 August 05 22:48 BST (UK) »
Hi

Found the following family @ Whins, Fettercairn in 1841 census

Piper  Robert        M   35   Ag Lab   Born outside census county

Watt  Elizabeth    F    35   Wife                   Ditto

Piper  Mary           F      8                         Kincardineshire

Piper  James        M      6                         Kincardineshire

Piper  Robert       M      3                         Kincardineshire

Piper  Alexander  M      1                         Kincardineshire

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Aberdeenshire : Anderson + Baxter + Bruce + Dickson + Emslie + Hendry + Hunter + Laing + Lawson + Maitland + Reid + Robb + Walker + Watt + Williams

Banffshire/Morayshire : Farquharson + Gordon + Grant + Lamb + Lawson + Stewart/Stuart

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Re: Robert PYPER of Fettercairn
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 August 05 23:54 BST (UK) »
BINGO!

Thank you Ysabeau.

We can now (hopefully) progress backwards!
The ages of Robert and Elizabeth are just what I needed.

I noticed that you are also searching the Watt and Elmslie name (or variations thereof). One of the Pyper sons, George was born 26 June 1830. He married Jane Smert Elmslie 10 December 1853 in Fettercairn Jane was the daughter of William Elmslie (Emsley) and Ann Lassen

If this is your family (or anyone else) I have some information re their lives and offspring.

Again - THANK YOU    :-*

Regards
Diana
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Re: Robert PYPER of Fettercairn
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 August 05 09:35 BST (UK) »
Hi,

IGI have a Robert Piper, born 26/04/1801 @ Arbirlot Angus - the son of George Piper and Helen Burness.

Could be worth "considering" especially as the above had a son named George

Ysabeau

PS - Will check Emslie connection
Aberdeenshire : Anderson + Baxter + Bruce + Dickson + Emslie + Hendry + Hunter + Laing + Lawson + Maitland + Reid + Robb + Walker + Watt + Williams

Banffshire/Morayshire : Farquharson + Gordon + Grant + Lamb + Lawson + Stewart/Stuart

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Re: Robert PYPER of Fettercairn
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 August 05 11:11 BST (UK) »
BINGO!

Thank you Ysabeau.

We can now (hopefully) progress backwards!
The ages of Robert and Elizabeth are just what I needed.

I noticed that you are also searching the Watt and Elmslie name (or variations thereof). One of the Pyper sons, George was born 26 June 1830. He married Jane Smert Elmslie 10 December 1853 in Fettercairn Jane was the daughter of William Elmslie (Emsley) and Ann Lassen

If this is your family (or anyone else) I have some information re their lives and offspring.

Again - THANK YOU    :-*

Regards
Diana


Diana

Be aware that the census ages for adults (over 15) in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest 5 years, so that they could have been 35 to 39, plus, dare I suggest it ::) , if Elizabeth was 42 but told Robert to show her as 39 ...................   :o

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Re: Robert PYPER of Fettercairn
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 August 05 11:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ysabeau,

You are certainly on the mark. Someone just sent me the following from the 1851 census:

Robert PYPER Head 49  Farmer 12acres  Forfarshire,Arbroath
Elizabeth Pyper  Wife 50 Farmer's Wife   Forfarshire,Montrose
ALEXANDER PYPER   SON     10  SCHOLAR         FETTERCAIRN
JANE PYPER    DAUR    7   SCHOLAR         FETTERCAIRN
ELISABETH PYPER   DAUR    4               FETTERCAIRN

I had to look where Arbroath was and it appears to be close to Arbirlot. The family always said that there was a connection with Burns, so maybe they were correct (cannot find any connection with THE Robert Burns though)

IGI only seems to have a BETTY WATT born in Montrose around the right time - Elizabeth always has her name as Eliz - not Betty, so am a bit unsure about that one.

Many thanks for all your assistance
Regards
Di
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Re: Robert PYPER of Fettercairn
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 August 05 11:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks ibi,

I had forgotten about the age changes. I didn't like the options for Elizabeth anyway - so back to the IGI with renewed hope.

Many thanks
Diana
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