John Johnson Puddington

[martin bateman]

John Johnson Puddington was born 16/6/1840 in Chelsea (Marylebone). I can track him in the 1841 / 1851 / 1881 and 1891 census but in the 1861 or 1871 census. Can anyone help?

He married Jane Sweet in 1863 and Lucy Priest in 1884.

Thanks
Martin

[judi2632]

Sorry not the census but you may not have this

John J Puddington was Discharged from Holborn workhouse on the 15 Jan 1879 aged 47 (Age a little Out but could be him) Discharged to wife

info from Broad Street workhouse register 1878 - 1879

[martin bateman]

Hi,

Spotted that but i believe this is a different John J Puddington who was born in Marylebone around the same time, hence the difference in the age. I know, it gets very confusing!

I found Lucy Johnson (wife) in the 1871 census living in Clipstone St, Marylebone with her eldest son and brother (Priest) but there is no sign of JJP?

This is beginning to frustrate me so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

[jim1]

Hello & welcome.
Had a look at what you have already & come across an anomaly.
In 1891 there's a John J Puddington aged 46 married to a Jane aged 40?
I can see the 1884 marriage to Lucy.
Can you explain?

[martin bateman]

Hi, thanks for your reply.

Basically, JJP married Jane Sweet on 10/06/1863 in Chelsea. Jane was a few years older than him. JJP's first child was born in 1870, Lucy Priest registered as being the mother. He married Lucy on 14/05/1884.

I assume that JJP / Jane had parted and JJP started a relationship with Lucy. It appears that Lucy adopted the 'Johnson' surname almost immediately (1871 Census), maybe because she didn't want to be seen as an unmarried mother!?!?

To make matters worse,  their first child (Albert James - my great grandfather) was registered at birth as 'William Albert', but all his records afterwards shows him as Albert James.

Also the surname went from 'Johnson Puddington' to 'Johnson' for some unknown reason. John was known as John Puddington or John Johnson Puddington or John Johnson. Very confusing when you're trying to trace the family!

JJP is the person i need to nail. Where was he in 1861 and 1871? There are criminals records that show that a John Puddington was convicted and sent to Australia, but i believe this is a different character as the birth dates don't match.

JJP was a servant so i would imagine he was living elsewhere, maybe abroad?  JJP and Lucy did have three further children: William Johnson (b. 1874 Chelsea), Harry Johnson (b. 1875 Egerton, Lancs) and Ernest Johnson (b.1877 Hartford, Cheshire) which highlights that they moved around.

Help!

Thanks
Martin

[martin bateman]

Hi,

I assume no one has any further info?

Cheers
Martin

[jim1]

Ok firstly the John J Puddington in 1891 is in fact Thomas J Puddington John's brother. He married Jane Ann Mason in 1875 & died in 1900. his will probated to her.So more confusion.
I can't see him in 1861/71 either but if he's using the name Johnson it's going to be difficult with such a common name.
There's quite a gap in the births & I'm wondering if he was in jail under the name Johnson.