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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 10:16 BST (UK) »
But the cowell who married Alice Mary Ann Votier her father was a William  and a weaver.When Alice married William Turner her surname was Coell according to her marriage cert.father listed as William and a weaver .......help

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 10:35 BST (UK) »
on both certificates she put her mark,also no employment on either seems a coincidence if its not the same person.

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 10:38 BST (UK) »
We have discarded the hastings marriage as she lived in Norwich.
She was 19yrs when she married Stephen Cowell and a widow at 23yrs.When she married William Turner.Could she be spinning a yarn saying shes a widow I wonder.

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 10:54 BST (UK) »
I can see her in 1871 listed as married but that may not be the case.
I can see a Stephen Cowles death in Mutford 1869 but his age is out.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 11:33 BST (UK) »
She married William Turner in dec 1871 she was 23 he was 41.
So many different spellings for one name so confusing.

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 11:38 BST (UK) »
I will send off for the Cowles death certificate only way to go I think now we have a possible date

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 11:44 BST (UK) »
just double checked age is wrong he was born 1838

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 12:12 BST (UK) »
The 1869 death appears to be that of Stephen Cowles , a dairyman and poulterer , who hanged himself ( info from the report of an inquest at Lowestoft. )
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 13:13 BST (UK) »
But the cowell who married Alice Mary Ann Votier her father was a William  and a weaver.When Alice married William Turner her surname was Coell according to her marriage cert.father listed as William and a weaver .......help

Hi avotier,

Yes, I’m sorry, you are right in that Alice Voiter who married William Cowell is the same person as Alice Coell who married William Turner, and then went on to marry William Shimmings/Shemmings.  I was far too hasty in posting my findings without cross referencing other websites!  So far the following has been confirmed for your particular Alice Mary Votier:

1865 Alice Mary Votier married William Cowell (various spellings) Norwich
1871 census Alice Mary Cowal living with her parents, recorded as married
1871 Dec Alice Mary A Coell married William Turner, Norwich
1878 Alice Mary Ann Votier, previous married name Turner, daughter of William Votier, married William Themmings/Shemmings, Hull, Yorks 13 Sep
1881 census, William Shemmings, a merchant seaman, and Alice living in Kingston upon Hull
1911 Alice Shimmings living in Sculcoates with husband (recorded as James); married 34 years; no children
1914 Alice M A Shimmings died Sculcoates, Yorkshire

Regarding the 1868 marriage for Alice M A Coell to William Hooper Nelson, Hastings, Sussex.  Whilst freebmd has this marriage recorded as Coell, family search, and consequently Ancestry has it transcribed as William Hooper Nelson (born 1834) and Alice Mary Ann Cock (born 1846)!!  Alice Mary Ann Cock/Coell’s father is recorded as William.