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Baker, Alfred & Eliza + Charles Dunn
« on: Saturday 04 July 15 06:14 BST (UK) »
The 1861 Census lists Alfred Baker as Farrier with the 5th Royal Irish Lancers at Aldershot.
The 1871 Census lists Alfred as Blacksmith at Huish Episcopi, Somerset, married to Eliza from Shipham, with son Alfred J born in Bristol in 1869.
The 1881 Census lists Eliza married to Charles Dunn, tailor & innkeeper, with stepson, John Baker.
The 1891 Census lists Eliza as "housekeeper" to Charles Dunn with sons Charles Dunn & Taylor Dunn. (Eliza lists herself as "widow", possibly to claim Alfred's pension?)
Charles Dunn dies in 1993 leaving £17 to his wife, Eliza Baker.  Eliza's son John moves to Wales, gets his landlord's daughter in the family way, marries her in Bedminster, then Eliza moves in with son John's father-in-law with son Taylor Dunn, who becomes Taylor Dunn Baker, then Frederick Taylor Baker in 1911.  Charles Dunn Jr becomes Charles Baker and settles in Bedminster.  If anyone has additional facts or photos, please let me know!  Aloha!

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Baker, Alfred 1831-1872?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 October 18 03:06 BST (UK) »
Still seeking ANY information of Farrier Sergeant Alfred Baker, born 1831 West Coker, Service No. 1751/260 and/or his marriage to Eliza Vowles born Shipton-on-Sea, Somerset.  ANY help greatly appreciated.  Aloha!  Rico

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Re: Baker, Alfred & Eliza + Charles Dunn
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 October 18 05:10 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage for a Thomas BAKER and Elizabeth VOWLES registered at Bedminster Dec qtr 1868 (5c/1187) - a possibility?

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Re: Baker, Alfred & Eliza + Charles Dunn
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 October 18 05:21 BST (UK) »
Eliza Vowles born Shipton-on-Sea, Somerset

Just to note that the 1871, 1881 census gives her place of birth as Shipham, Somerset


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Re: Baker, Alfred & Eliza + Charles Dunn
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 October 18 12:59 BST (UK) »
I cant find any Marriage on line for Alfred/Eliza.

There ages are very fluid on Census!

Possibles;

ALFRED Baker Bapt 12 Jul 1835, St Martin, West Coker
Mothers AMELIA Baker, occp Gloveress

Sister MARY ANN Baker Bapt same day

Amellia married Henry LONGMAN 23 December 1855, West Coker, Somerset
No Father named on Familysearch.Org

AMELIA Baker Bapt 20 Oct 1811 St Martin
Parents JOHN/PHOEBE
Found 1 sibling Phoebe Apsey Baker 10 Jul 1825, Fathers occp Smith***

1861 we have;

Henry Longman   Head   Male   36   Christon, Somerset
Amelia Longman Wife   Female   49   West Coker, Somerset
Jane Baker Daughter In Law   Female   14   West Coker, Somerset
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Re: Baker, Alfred & Eliza + Charles Dunn
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 October 18 13:14 BST (UK) »
Looks like John Baker Married twice;
25 Nov 1808 to Phoebe APSEY, down as a Widower
27 Jan 1795 to Sarah APSEY

Sarah BAKER buried 30 Apr 1807 age 37

JOHN Baker buried 25 Oct 1834 age 65

PHEBE Baker buried 18 Dec 1849 age 71, died 13 Dec 1849

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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Baker, Alfred & Eliza + Charles Dunn
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 October 18 22:33 BST (UK) »
Yes, John Baker, blacksmith, was Alfred Baker's grandfather and, after many children by unknown fathers, his mother eventually married Longman.  I will check out the Thomas Baker marriage as it is registered at the right place and the right time, but I have found no prior record of him using the name Thomas.  Thank you very much for your help and prompt responses!  Aloha!  Rico

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Re: Baker, Alfred & Eliza + Charles Dunn
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 October 18 01:42 BST (UK) »
Let us know the results if you decide to purchase the marriage cert - it should hopefully have fathers' names and occupations, or witnesses which may help you determine if it is them.  :)

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Re: Baker, Alfred & Eliza + Charles Dunn
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 October 18 11:19 BST (UK) »
the 1868 marriage is a coincidence of names, Elizabeth Vowles married the other man on the page, William Hunt

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