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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 13 November 18 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Ward? Well, straight away, that's a name strongly associated with Irish Pav's. I'll ask around, today. Some names also carry a geographical connotation too

  Funny, the idea that his accent may have tripped people up. I'm out of england and, only last week, I was happily chatting to a couple of local guys. Suddenly, mid flow, I caught them shoot eachother that look which clearly stated: " No. I haven't got a clue what he's on about either! "  ;D
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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 13 November 18 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Mixbag; Just to let ye know, I didn't come up with any particular leads, today, unfortunately. Ward appears to be a pretty well spread name, here.

But, there ye go. Inconclusive? Maybe so. But, at least no one's peeing on ye parade  :) Ye've got the family rumour. The name fits the bill. It walks like a duck (bill).

Keep digging.

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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 13 November 18 21:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for checking.
I found his mothers surname was Rooney, 1 step at a time closer

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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 13 November 18 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Rooney is, again a known, Pav surname!

Keep chipping away there, Mixbag. Looking like there could Well be some substance to ye family tales  ;)
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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #31 on: Monday 07 January 19 10:31 GMT (UK) »
HI been a Christmas break, but back with more. :)

great great Grandad was called Patrick Ward and his wife was Alice Rooney. Family rumour was he was King of the Irish Tinkers. We traced there eldest 2 children to Drogheda (1842 & 1844), but at that point the trail goes cold. The only 2 Alice Rooney's from that area are one baptised in Dublin  and the other was  Dunshaughlin. However just because the children were baptised in Drogheda, doesn't mean they were from that area, but it is where the trail grows cold.

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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #32 on: Monday 07 January 19 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Drogheda's out on the east coat. Road runs straight  from there into Dublin.

Just so happens that my people regularly traveled the south coast of england. Road between Brighton and Poole, even as far as Exeter.

So, if ~ for the sake of comparison ~ we apply that stencil to your folks; We have a precedent that it may be entirely possible that they traveled between any two points, up and down their own coast road.

  In fact, the entire East Coast Road. Anywhere between Dundalk and Wexford falls within their realm of feasibility. Dublin would be easy, peezy.

Maybe something worth putting in ye shoe box?
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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #33 on: Monday 07 January 19 15:10 GMT (UK) »
Interesting stuff, I know the family had ties all over the place, including Cork and Limerick (where my uncle was born) I can imagine they had a long and circuitous route.
Just out os interest, to you maybe. I found this https://www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/themes/subjects/diversity/grt/

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Re: Irish traveller surnames
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 17:30 GMT (UK) »
My grandmother Ivy Edith Dalton (born Crayford Kent; 1904 - 1988) always maintained that she was related to Romany gypsies including "Gypsy Rose Lea".  She had visions and premonitions as did my mother and me and my sisters.  Her mother was Louisa Crockford  and her grandmother was called Ellen Donavin (1846 - 1917).  I wondered if Ellen might be Irish and a Romany?

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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Kathy; DALSON / DALTON was a name given, by Gypsys, in 1891 (According to Bob Dawson) in ESS, HRT, KEN, LDN.

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