Burns - McBride

[aussie-girl]

Hugh Burns married Emily McBride in Larne on the 11 September 1918. His father is listed a Alexander & her father is William. Witness's are Robert Burns & Jane McBride. The church is Raloo Presbyterian. I would like some information about the families of these people if possible ,please
TIA . AG Parents ,siblings etc...!!

[fastfusion]

aussie girl........ if i remember rightly we did part of the McBride tree of Antrim a while back...at Magherfelt>>>

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=628111.msg4761399#msg4761399

I am contact with the folk living in Brisbane related to this research.....   McBrides  married Palmer.....

if you think this is part of that work send me a PM with your email addie and I will put you in contact with the folk directly....

[aghadowey]

I can't see any connection between these McBrides (Raloo district, Co.Antrim) and the ones in the earlier topic (McBrides, Magherafelt district) 

This might be connected-
McBride, Alexander of Ballyedward Magheramorne county Antrim farmer died 15 December 1962 at Moyle Hospital Larne county Antrim Administration Belfast 6 February to Emily Burns widow. Effects £470 13s.
This Alexander McBride was 76 years old when he died in 1962 (so born 1886). Thiis family has an Alexander the right age with sister Emily-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Carrickfergus_Rural/Middle_Division/991542
and here with ages out a bit-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Eden/Middle_Division/193062

[aghadowey]

A bit more...

John McBride
1.   Sarah (c1839-1897)
     Probate of the Will of Sarah M'Bride late of Ardboley County of the Town of Carrickfergus Spinster who died 2 May 1897 granted at Belfast to Alexander M'Bride of Ballyfore Raloo Larne and John Bell of Ballynerry Ballynure both County Antrim Farmers. Will mentions brothers David & Alexander, brother William’s (deceased) daughters Jane & Minnie as well as others.
2.   Alexander
     ? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Raboo/Ballyfore/991264
3.   David
     ? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Carrickfergus_Rural/West_Division/992125
4.   William

William McBride (d.bef.1897) m.(1866) Margaret Ann Johnston (c1845/c1849)
1.   Jane (1868)
2.   John (1870)
3.   Matthew (1872-1937)
     McBride Matthew of Pullindoos Raloo Larne county Antrim farm servant died 5 April 1937 Administration Belfast 10 May to Alexander McBride farmer. Effects £61 0s. 3d.
4.   Alexander (1874-bef.1886)
5.   Minnie (1878)
6.   Sarah (1880)
7.   Margaret Anne (25 May 1882)
8.   Alexander (10 Feb.1886-1962)
     McBride, Alexander of Ballyedward Magheramorne county Antrim farmer died 15 December 1962 at Moyle Hospital Larne county Antrim Administration Belfast 6 February to Emily Burns widow. Effects £470 13s.
9.   Martha Marie (30 Apr.1888)
10.   Emily (1 Feb.1890) m. Burns

[greeneyedgirl]

Hi, was looking about and found the following.

Death:
Alexander Burns
died 21 Feb 1896
wife Mary Burns
residence:Ballyhone,Glynn,Antrim (which matches with details on marriage)

1901 census:
Ballyhone,Glynn,Antrim

Mary Burns  age 40  head of house  Presbyterian  born Antrim  farmer  widow
Alexander Burns  age 18 son Presbyterian born Antrim
Samuel Burns age 16 son  Presbyterian  born Antrim
John Burns  age 13 son Presbyterian  born Antrim
Archie Burns  age 9  son  Presbyterian  born Antrim
Hugh Burns  age 6  son  Presbyterian  born Antrim

1911 census
Ballyhone,Glynn,Antrim

Alexander Burns  age 28 head of house farmer
Samuel Burns  age 25  brother  imbecile
John Burns  age 23  brother  labourer
Hugh Burns  age 16  brother  farm worker

The mother Mary died between 1901-1911. On GRONI, there are quite a few Mary Burns death records none match too close with her being 40 in 1901- I'm thinking age may have been recorded wrong.

Births:
children of Alexander & Mary

Alexander
born 1882 Larne

Samuel
born 1885 Larne

John
born 1887 Larne

Annie
born 1889 Larne

Archibald
born 1892 Larne

Hugh
born 1894 Larne

**even tho' Annie does not appear in the census,I found her by reading the will of her father Alexander which an be found on the website www.proni.gov.uk/ in the will calendars.

Marriage:
Non Subscribing Presbyterian  25 June 1880 district:Larne
Glenarm  parish:Tickmacrevens  county:Antrim
groom:Alexander Burns
full age
bachelor
occ:farmer
address:Magheramorne
father:Alexander Burns (dec) farmer
bride:Mary Burns
minor
spinster
address:Ballylesson
father:Samuel Burns farmer
married in 1st Presbyterian meetinghouse
witnesses:Ephraim Craig & Lizzie Burns

I will get back to you about Emily's family.Hope this helps,Kim

[aghadowey]

Kim- it's much easier to read a post if it's not too long with so many spaces and you've mis-transcribed the census incorrectly but using the details you've already found-

Alexander Burns (d.21 Feb.1896), son of Alexander (d.bef.1880), m.(1880) Mary Burns (c1861-aft.1901), dau. of Samuel.
     Note: Mary Burns was minor in 1880 so age in 1901 census probably not far off.
     Letters of Administration (with the Will) of the personal estate of Alexander Burns late of Ballyhone Glynn County Antrim Farmer who died 21 February 1896 were granted at Belfast to Mary Burns of Ballyhome the Widow
     www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Glynn/Ballyhone/994644
     www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Glynn/Ballyhome/194709
1.   Alexander (7 Oct.1882-aft.1911)
          Burns Alexander of Ballyhone Gleno county Antrim farmer died 7 October 1944 at Larne District Hospital county Antrim Probate Belfast 11 December to Hugh Burns joiner and John McGookin farmer. Effects £830 12s.
2.   Samuel (7 Jan.1885-aft.1911)
3.   John (6 Sept.1887-aft.1911)
4.   Annie (2 Dec.1889)
5.   Archibald (7 Jan.1892)
6.   Hugh (9 June 1894-aft.1911)

Possibly Alexander Burns' father-
The Will of Alexander Burns late of Ballyhone County Antrim Farmer deceased who died 28 December 1875 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oath of John Burns of Newlands in said County Farmer the Executor. Will mentions farm to son Alexander, wife, daughter Annie, son Archibald, daughter Margaret, daughter Bessie.

[greeneyedgirl]

Hi Aghadowey, I leave the spaces to make it easier to read and to lesson confusion. As to the census, I reviewed what I had enclosed in the post and the information from the census was not mistranscribed. I included the most relevant parts figuring that the census would be looked at anyway by the person looking for information ie knowing they can read or write does not help in finding a parent that's why I didn't include that but everything else was correct. I appreciate any advice but unwarranted criticism is another thing.

[greeneyedgirl]

Hi again, now for the McBrides.

1901 census(edited version) Middle Division,Carrickfergus
Margaret McBride head of house  age 52 Presbyterian born Antrim  widow
Margaret McBride daughter  age 18 Presbyterian born Antrim dressmaker
Martha M McBride daughter age 12 Presbyterian born Antrim
Emily Mcbride daughter age 11 Presbyterian  born Antrim
Jane McBride daughter age 22 Presbyterian  born Antrim
Sarah McBride daughter age 20 Presbyterian  born Antrim
Alexander McBride son age 15 Presbyterian  born Antrim
Mathew McBride son age 24 Presbyterian  born Antrim

1911 census Middle Division,Eden

Margaret Ann McBride head of house age 66 widow  10 children born,10 living
Matthew McBride son age 25 farmer
Alexander McBride son age 22
Sarah McBride daughter age 24
Emily McBride daughter age 16

births of kids to Willioam & Margaret:
Jane 20 October 1868
John 24 March 1870
Mathew 12 October 1872
Alexander 3 September 1874
Minnie 22 April 1878
Sarah 1 February 1880
Margaret 25 May 1882
Alexander 10 February 1886
Martha 30 April 1888
Emily 1 February 1890

death:
21 August 1894
Middle Division,Carrickfergus
William McBride  age 45
farmer
married
cause of death:pneumonia from injuries received by overturning of a wagon  7 days
inquest held 21 August 1894

Margaret McBride
died 26 March 1921
age 72
registered Larne

Marriage:
groom:William McBride
groom's father:John McBride
bride:Margaret Anne Johnston
bride's father:Mathew Johnston
date of marriage:19 October 1866
place of marriage:Raloo,Antrim

Death:
John McBride
13 Sept 1892
Ballyfore,Antrim
wife:Jane
*will at www.proni.gov.uk/

Hope this helps,Kim

[aghadowey]

1901 census: Ballyhone,Glynn,Antrim
Mary Burns  age 40  head of house  Presbyterian  born Antrim  farmer  widow
Alexander Burns  age 18 son Presbyterian born Antrim
Samuel Burns age 16 son  Presbyterian  born Antrim
John Burns  age 13 son Presbyterian  born Antrim
Archie Burns  age 9  son  Presbyterian  born Antrim
Hugh Burns  age 6  son  Presbyterian  born Antrim

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000365417/
Alex not Alexander. Last night I thought you had Archibald instead of Archie?
Also, the original only lists a birthplace for head of household 

If you must type out the census details perhaps also post a link to let others see what you've found?