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Re: Last Chance Catherine, you elusive wench....
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 12 May 21 17:19 BST (UK) »
I can see it?

JUDSON, CATHERINE        26 
GRO Reference: 1867  S Quarter in DERBY  Volume 07B  Page 235

Debra  :)

Doh! - think I must have entered 'birth' rather than 'death' cos I too can see it now!

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Re: Last Chance Catherine, you elusive wench....
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 May 21 13:51 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for this one. I had not come across it. Will check her out.

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Death certificate ordered I will let you know when I know!
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: Last Chance Catherine, you elusive wench....
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 May 21 14:43 BST (UK) »
Burial at Nottingham Road Cemetery, Derby, 18 Sep 1867
Sarah Walker alias Catherine Judson
Lace mender, age 26
Abode Workhouse
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DY99-RF8


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Re: Last Chance Catherine, you elusive wench....
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 18 May 21 14:08 BST (UK) »
bu***r....that looks like another wasted death certificate  ::) Thank you Jon  good find.
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: Last Chance Catherine, you elusive wench....
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 19 May 21 09:24 BST (UK) »
No help on where she ended up, but....
Baptised as a Roman Catholic in Moorfields Westminster Middlesex, 20 Dec 1835, there is a Catherina Collins, d/o Joannis (John) Collins and Catherina Doohig, born 2 Dec 1835

1841 30 Wilkes St Tower Hamlets
John Collins, 40, silk weaver, bic
Catherine Collins, 30, B. Ireland
Mary Collins, 1, bic

1841 Wheeler Sq, 86 Chapel Street, Tower Hamlets
John Collins, 40, basket maker, bic
Ann Collins, 25, bic
James Collins, 2, bic
Ann Elizabeth, 19mths, bic

This possibility in 1861...
Atherton, Leigh, Lancashire
John Collins, 54, wid, boarder, jute weaver, b. Woolwich Kent
John Collins, 11, boarder, jute weaver, b. Manchester Lancashire

Iíll keep looking....

Jo  :)
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Re: Last Chance Catherine, you elusive wench....
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 May 21 14:48 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Jo for all your work. I have been so frustrated with this lady. The only info I have on her is her marriage certificate 21 Oct 1856 this states her father was John Collins a basket maker, and we all know how truthful they could be, and that she was 19 years old. The witnesses were her husbands brother and his wife, so no help there. The 1861 census states her birth place as Whitechapel and she was 22 years old, and this could just be where she thought she was born. Some of her court cases refer to her as "Irish" now could this be because she had an accent? Otherwise how would anyone know, as her maiden name Judson is not Irish.
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: Last Chance Catherine, you elusive wench....
« Reply #15 on: Friday 21 May 21 18:42 BST (UK) »
Death certificate arrived...  She died 15th September 1867 in the Union Workhouse aged 26 her rank or profession is "unknown to informant" she died of Broncho pneumonia 4 weeks certified. Registered by J Eggleston in attendance Union workhouse, the word under this looks like  "Litchinch"  ???

Her age is a few years out for my Catherine, but if her occupation was not known would her age have been? The date works with the last sighting of her on 8th Feb 1867. Ok guess this has given me a push, so Derby newspapers next! Many thanks for the help. I am not counting this one out...yet  ;)
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: Last Chance Catherine, you elusive wench....
« Reply #16 on: Friday 21 May 21 20:26 BST (UK) »
....the word under this looks like  "Litchinch"  ???

Probably Litchurch.
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Re: Last Chance Catherine, you elusive wench....
« Reply #17 on: Friday 21 May 21 22:05 BST (UK) »
Probably Litchurch.

Cemetery record says
Abode at time of death - Workhouse
Parish in which abode situate - Litchurch

An occupation, for what it's worth, is given in the burial register.
Re the two names on the burial entry, Sarah Walker, a tramp, does get a few mentions in Lincolnshire newspapers in 1866/7. Then they cease after April 1867?
Drunkenness, obscene language, prison.
Perhaps not in the same towns as the Catherine newspaper items. Could she have been known in some places as Sarah Walker, and in others as Catherine Judson? :-\