Jessie Bell, born 1882 or 1883 Renfrewshire, Scotland

[sandorini]

I know this is the same person given the genealogists information and also quarriers. So it would seem she was adopted by William and Johanna? Especially seeing that she was born in Irvine according to the adoption agency and census records. Is there any information regarding her with this surname in Irvine and the surname Findlayson?

Thank you so much!

Sandy

[Rosinish]

That Jessie C Findlayson was b Aberdeen.

What date was the adoption, where & are there any other info. such as an address or anything 
Does it give her actual birth details.................I have never seen an adoption cert.

I would like to PM you re adoption cert. if that's ok 

Annie

[Rosinish]

I know this is the same person given the genealogists information and also quarriers. So it would seem she was adopted by William and Johanna? Especially seeing that she was born in Irvine according to the adoption agency and census records. Is there any information regarding her with this surname in Irvine and the surname Findlayson?

So the genealogist told you her parent's were William & Johanna which is obviously wrong if she was born Findlayson

As I said...............

There's a Jessie Ca..............Findlayson (not sure exactly what the rest of the "Ca" is) but it's not Carrick b 1883 but not in Ayr, Renfrew or Angus

Irvine is in Ayr so no birth there for that name 

Annie

[Annette7]

Have just found and looked at the 1882 birth certificate on SP.

Birth registered as Jane Carrick Findlayson Bell b.3/8/1882 High Street, Irvine and her parents are indeed listed as William Bell, Staff Sergeant (domicile in Paisley) and Johanna Bell, formerly Newton.

Seems strange that they already had a daughter - plain Jane - born 21/12/1877 Paisley (birth appears in 1878 index) and then name another daughter registered as Jane   C F  on SP and call this one Jessie.   

Scottish naming patterns can be a pain in the butt at times - Jane's in Scotland can be known as Jean, Jessie, Janet, etc. - My own Scottish grandmother fell into the pattern too - born Jane but almost always known as Jeanie!

Annette

 

[Rosinish]

Birth registered as Jane Carrick Findlayson Bell 1882

Annette well done 

Sandorini you will be able to get the marriage cert. to climb the genealogy tree (not Sir Isaac's apple tree) 

Annie

[rosie17]

So the certificate Annette has found confirms the parents
Back to John Newton in the 1841 census as previously mentioned address South Road Dundee
Isac Newton b 1784 England age 57 labourer
Margaret Newton b 1813 Scotland ,James Newton b1826 England , John Newton b 1831 England Thomas b 1837 Scotland Jannett 1841 Scotland Elizabeth 1835 Scotland
Possibility for John Newton in 1851 census lodging with a John and Jane Thom address Burnside Invers Land Lochee Angus
John Newton b 1830 England flaxspinner
Jane Berry b 1830 Renfrew Glasgow
Jane Newton b 1850 Dundee

[rosie17]

And several births for a John Newton and James Newton in England father Isaac Newton which would prove quite hard to pick the right one 

[rosie17]

Sandorina if you P M your e-mail address I will send you copy of the marriage for William Bell and Johanna Newton
Rosie

[Rosinish]

Thought it would have been good to get far enough back re Sir Isaac Newton

Plenty here...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fpl/

But.....................he had no children 

He does however have Scottish roots which you may eventually manage to trace 

Annie

Annie