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Re: Hurst Mystery California
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 20:39 BST (UK) »
Sorry Shaun missed your post and not sure how to do that .

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Re: Hurst Mystery California
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 23 July 15 16:10 BST (UK) »
Also, index of death https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPQY-JQZ shows her mother's maiden name as Fitzpatrick.  While the family might not have known full and accurate details if they weren't in touch with her family, the death certificate might have her parents' names on it to the best of the informant's knowledge.

Here's where things might get complicated:
http://www.jwfgenresearch.com/SFCall/6900-80.htm
James Hurst m. 1889 to "Allie Dalton".

Very little information in the newspaper:
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=DAC18891114.2.85.3#
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Re: Hurst Mystery California
« Reply #11 on: Friday 24 July 15 05:06 BST (UK) »
Interesting and confusing.


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Re: Hurst Mystery California
« Reply #12 on: Friday 24 July 15 12:19 BST (UK) »
I suppose it could be another James Hurst, but I can't find another in SF and the timing is highly suspicious.  Or perhaps she was married briefly beforehand, or used a stepfather's name?

I think you really do need the death certificate of "Mary Ellen Hurst" if you don't have it already.

A Mrs M.E. Hurst was the "complaining witness" in a case in 1907:
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19070125.2.106&srpos=49&e=-------en--20--41-byDA-txt-txIN-%22Mrs+Hurst%22------#
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19070611.2.50&srpos=51&e=-------en--20--41-byDA-txt-txIN-%22Mrs+Hurst%22------#
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19070419.2.130&srpos=1&e=-------en--20--1-byDA-txt-txIN-%22Mary+E.+Hurst%22------#

Mention of a niece, Mary Jane Cooke, but I think she may be this one on the Hurst side:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VGTJ-ZXF
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Re: Hurst Mystery California
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 02 August 15 06:56 BST (UK) »
Just found this record on FamilySearch.org -
"California, San Francisco Area Funeral Home Records, 1835-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JNRL-BJS : accessed 1 August 2015), James Hurst, 18 Aug 1903; citing funeral home Halsted & Co., San Francisco, San Francisco, California, record book Vol. 2,, 1898-1913, San Francisco Public Library, San Francisco History and Archive Center.
   There is more information on the image (3 pages which overlap) James Hurst; Cause of Death - "Rhutism Acute" perhaps acute rheumatism ?  This fits in with what I was told "James HURST went to San Francisco, died suddenly, he had rheumatic fever back home in Ireland - he married in America.  In New South Wales Maud Hurst's brother John went to him for a job in his horse bazaar." (Mabel Thompson/Mabel Thompson). John Richard Hurst went to San Francisco about 1899 -he married "Mary E" so a bit confusing.
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Re: Hurst Mystery California
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 August 15 08:45 BST (UK) »
Still confused Beth. Is the suggestion that the large Marble monument in Cypress Lawn Memorial ( on Line)Park was erected by latter family Hurst members and names just allocated in a random way. I mention this because  on one side it clearly shows James Hurst 1850-1903 and underneath Mary E Hurst 1861-1948--those are the only 2 names on that side.
Would John  Richard Hurst and a Mary E named all 4 children the same  ??? as James who died in 1903.

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 August 15 20:01 BST (UK) »
I can try calling the cemetery office for you (on Tuesday or Thursday), to see if they might have more information about James and Mary.  Sometimes, they ask for the caller's relationship to the deceased (some offices do not give out information to random people)  ;) and some won't give out information over the phone.  May I ask your connection to James, please (answering either by pm or here) so that I can tell them that I am calling for you?
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Re: Hurst Mystery California
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 02 August 15 23:52 BST (UK) »
I don't think this has been mentioned previously; apologies if someone already posted it.   :-\

Passing of James Hurst, August 18, 1903.  Mentions wife Allie, children Mabel, James Jr., Georgie and Willie.  James was a native of County Fermanagh, Ireland, age 53 years and 1 month.  (James') Address:  1332 Fulton Street.  Interment:  Cypress Lawn Cemetery.
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Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada       Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Hurst Mystery California
« Reply #17 on: Monday 03 August 15 09:01 BST (UK) »
Hello Lisa
Very interested in your reply. Had not seen the death notice --thank you . I assume Mabel could be Maybelle ?
This is the first time Alice ( although not written that way is mentioned). My relationship is quite distant  and is 1st Cousin 3x removed. Would be really interested to see if her name is on the memorial?. I found only one Alice Hurst buried at the cemetery and that is 1935 but could not see any grave marker on line.
Any more information would be very much appreciated.
Still confused .