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Re: Can Rootschat members help?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 18:44 BST (UK) »
So then, looking at the index for the 1911 census, I think there are 3 children who would be the great nieces and nephews of Jane Thirzah Williams:
Tirzah Gwenllian May Treharne (10)
John George Royston Treharne (6)
Owen Gibbs Treharne (1)

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 19:13 BST (UK) »
Just bookmarking this thread as the Thomas Watkins d 1875 could possibly be one of mine.

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Glamorgan - Carpenter, Chamberlain, Ellis, Watkins, Rees, Bevan
Wiltshire - Carpenter, Chamberlain, Ellis, Merrett
Essex - Burdon, Taylor, Menzies
Canada - Burdon, Parkinson
Australia - Carpenter, Burdon

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 19:13 BST (UK) »
There is this marriage in 1922


Marriages Jun 1922
MABEY  Walter S Cardiff  11a 1043   
TREHARNE  Tirzah G M  Cardiff  11a 1043

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!

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Re: Can Rootschat members help?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 19:22 BST (UK) »
There is this marriage in 1922


Marriages Jun 1922
MABEY  Walter S Cardiff  11a 1043   
TREHARNE  Tirzah G M  Cardiff  11a 1043

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One daughter comes from this marriage, who then appears to marry a cousin (so ends up with a Treharne surname).  I have found the address for this couple - do you want to pass it on, seeing as you started this thread!


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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 19:40 BST (UK) »
Before I contact the newspaper, can someone else come to the same conclusion as me as to what happens to any children from the Walter Mabey/Tirzah Treharne marriage?  Don't want to look like a fool  8)

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 19:42 BST (UK) »
Looking at other great niece/nephews of Jane Thirzah Williams:

John George R Treharne - appears on passenger manifesto with wife Margaret Stella Treharne heading out to Peru (18th August 1960)

Looks like they both die in Montevideo in 1972 (online family tree suggests this cause of death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STV_Royston_Grange)

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 20:00 BST (UK) »
Owen Gibbs Treharne marries Joyce Mingay 1935 Hereford.

They have two sons, one of whom marries his cousin Mabey.

So, Jane Thirzah Williams has a sister, Sarah Williams who marries William Gibbs and they have:
  • Gertrude Gibbs (marries Treharne) (niece)
    Tirzah Treharne (marries Mabey) (great niece)
    Living daughter Mabey (marries Treharne) (great great niece)

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 20:45 BST (UK) »
Oakleys - perhaps this one in 1861?

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John Oakley  Head  Mar 29 Miner bn Hereford
Ann Oakley  Wife  Mar  38  bn Radnor Llanvihangel
Ellin Oakley  Dau  16  bn Radnor Llanvihangel
benjamin Oakley  Son  9  bn Brecon Llanelly
Mary Ann Oakley  Dau  5  bn Brecon Llanelly
Elizabeth Oakley  Dau  2  bn Brecon Llanelly

Ellin Oakley isn't a great match for the Ellen that dies in 1862, but at the moment I can't see another good candidate.  The Richard Oakley that died aged 4 was born in 1854 in Crickhowell, so he would have fit nicely between Benjamin and Mary Ann  :-\

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 20:52 BST (UK) »
1871 - the Oakley family are in Gilwern.

Children Benjamin (18), Mary A (14), Elizabeth (11), Jane (9), Louisa (2).

So, to the best of my research and understanding (feel free to chip in please!), Ellen Oakley would have descendants via these siblings.  Will have a hunt for descendants from Benjamin first.