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Offline Mart 'n' Al

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Any Loughboroughs from Hartlepool?
« on: Thursday 23 July 15 18:14 BST (UK) »
I would welcome any information or contact for this name.  My grandmother was Kate, born Hartlepool in 1882.

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Re: Any Loughboroughs from Hartlepool?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 July 15 18:23 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat, on both the 1891 and 1901 Kate is shown as Grandaughter to a George 57 and Elizabeth 55 at Grocers Shop, Croft Terrace, Hartlepool, with Elizabeth only on 1901
Census Ref 1891 RG12/4059/134/37 1901 RG13/4635/79/13

Do you have her birth certificate?

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Re: Any Loughboroughs from Hartlepool?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 July 15 10:26 BST (UK) »
kate married in hartlepool or west hartlepool at a catholic/non conformist church or register office in 1905. struggling to find her baptism.
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first loughborough baptism in hartlepool was on 29 may, 1856, at st hilda's church, hartlepool. jane, daughter of george and elizabeth (nee mowbray) loughborough. no actual date of birth given.
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the first loughborough marriage was at the same church on 8 july, 1855, by banns.
george, of full age, and a sailor. son of william loughborough, an upholsterer.
residing in hartlepool.

elizabeth mowbray, aged 20, and a spinster.
daughter of john mowbray, a shoemaker.
residing in hartlepool.
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certain info sent by pm.

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Re: Any Loughboroughs from Hartlepool?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 July 15 13:01 BST (UK) »
Hello, I'm new, as you are aware.  I am very grateful for the replies so far.  I'm highly computer experienced, but a novice genealogist, in fact I use the word very loosely. 

I was not even a teenager when Kate died in the mid sixties, and her husband died during, but not because of WWII, so I doubt even my father knew that much.

I have previously found some of the information provided by 'hpool' and 'keyboard86', but some of it is new, thank you.  I'd love to know the sources you have quoted.  I am still trying to decide which internet sources to subscribe to. (Any advice?) It could be an expensive error.  I am also failing to see how to reply to a PM from 'hpool'.  Perhaps I have to make 3 posts first?

I don't have Kate's birth certificate.  I am being very careful with money, as I could easily get carried away.

I had found details of George's Grocer's Shop, on the Hartlepool headland, but had not actually proved that he was her grandfather.  Thank you.  I am going to try and contact a pub nearby, which seems to show an interest in history, to see if I can get photos of the area.

I assume that as Kate is listed in the 1891 and 1901 censuses as 'Granddaughter', this infers her father died at sometime earlier.  This might explain why most other Hartlepool Loughboroughs are listed as baptised, but Kate apparently not.  Also, even on the 'free' searches I have done so far, she gets mentioned considerably less than the other Loughboroughs.  I cannot explain this.

I found an 1893 newspaper cutting recording the death of Jane Bulmer nee Loughborough on the 12th at 11 Croft Terrace Hartlepool. Jane the beloved wife of Matthew Bulmer and eldest daughter of George and Elizabeth Loughborough age 36 years. To be interred on Sunday, cortege to leave the above address at 2:30 p.m. Deeply regretted. Friends please accept this the only intimation.

I also found a similar record of a youth, Chapman Loughborough being stopped by the police for cycling on the pavement!  He was fined ten shillings and costs.

I have compiled, from various sources, a list of many Loughborough life events, and I am currently trying to relate them to each other.

Thank you both again for your help.  I would do the same for anyone else.

Martin


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Re: Any Loughboroughs from Hartlepool?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 July 15 13:40 BST (UK) »
Hi again that birrh certificate or her marriage would define who her father was,  my thoughts are that Kate was the Illegitimate daughter of one of the daughters?
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Re: Any Loughboroughs from Hartlepool?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 July 15 13:44 BST (UK) »
Illegitimate!  How exciting!  Even before today, I have discovered things which contradict what I remember being told as a child.  I hope there is more family openness these days.

Do you think illegitimacy is more likely than her father dying and being taken in by the grandparents?

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Re: Any Loughboroughs from Hartlepool?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 July 15 18:46 BST (UK) »
Hi I really cannot confirm that Kate was illegitimate or not, as stated the birth certificate or location of a baptism would answer your question, it is only my thoughts on the subject, bear in mind if Kate was the daughter of one of the sons, where is the mother in 1891?
For searching purposes here are the family census returns:-

1891 Census

George Loughborough 57 occ Bread Baker & Grocer b Middlesex
Elizabeth 55
Thomas R 23 Single occ Iron Moulder
Chapman 21 Single occ Shipyard Labourer
Clara A ( original could be Eliza A) 26 Single occ Milliner
Margaret R Single 17
Kate 8 Grandaughter
Sarah Mowbray Single 62 Sister in Law
All others born Hartlepool
George Loughborough missing on 1891, marries a Hannah Mary Wood March qtr 1887 Hartlepool 10a 146


1881 Census

George Loughborough 47 occ Seaman b City of London
Elizabeth 45
Elizabeth 18
George 15
Robinson R Thomas 12
Chapman 11
Margaret 7
Residing at 5, Croft Terrace, Hartlepool
Census Ref Rg11/4906/105/41

1871 Census

Margaret Robinson 52 Widow occ Grocer
Sarah Mowbray Single/Sister 44
George Loughborough 36 Brother in Law occ Shipyard Labourer b London
Elizabeth 35 Sister
Jane 14 Niece
John W 12 Nephew
Elizabeth A 8 Niece
George 5 Nephew
Robinson 3 Nephew
Chapman 1 Nephew
Residing at Croft Terrace, Bedford Street, Hartlepool
Census Ref RG10/4914/57/16

1861 Census

George Loughborouigh 27 occ Seaman b Marylebone
Elizabeth 25
Jane 4
John 2
Louisa 11 months
Mary Parry 47 Widow/Sister ( Sister in Law) b Hartlepool
Residing at Croft Terrace, Hartlepool
Census Ref RG09/3699/105/44
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Re: Any Loughboroughs from Hartlepool?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 July 15 19:39 BST (UK) »
Hi again, I found the possible marriage that led to the birth of Kate b c 1882 possibly named after the bride's mother Catherine in 1871 Margaret Street, St Leonard, Shoreditch RG10/469/53/16

1881 Census

J W Loughborough 22 Single occ Watchmaker & Jeweller b Hartlepool is at 19, Southboro Road, Hackney, London in 1881
Census Ref RG11/314/6/6

Marriage 29th January 1882 St John of Jerusalem, South Hackney

John William Loughborough Full Age occ Watchmaker Father George Loughborough occ Seaman
Annie Maria Ballard Full Age Father William Henry Ballard occ Decorator

1891 Census

John W Loughborough 31 Widower/Nephew occ Watchmaker b Hartlepool is with a Samuel G Frazer 71 occ Master Mariner b Lerwick and Jane 66 b Hartlepool
Residing at Eden Street, Stranton, Hartlepool
Census Ref RG12/4064/122/59

Marriage Samuel Gilmore Frazer to Jane Mowbray Dec qtr 1859 Hartlepool 10a 132

Death Annie M Loughborough Dec qtr 1883 Hartlepool 10a 88 aged 22
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Re: Any Loughboroughs from Hartlepool?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 July 15 10:35 BST (UK) »
found a loughborough baptism for brougham street methodist church, hartlepool.

born 2 march, 1866.
bapt 31 march 1866.
george, son of george and elizabeth loughborough, of bedford street, hartlepool. father a sailor.